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Joe Rogan · 2024-05-09 · 3h 30m

Joe Rogan Experience #2148 - Gad Saad

Evolutionary psychologist Gad Saad returns for his 10th JRE to discuss antisemitism, parasitic ideas, suicidal empathy, and AI fears.

Joe Rogan Experience #2148 - Gad Saad
The guest

Gad Saad — Lebanese-Jewish evolutionary psychologist, professor of marketing at Concordia University, and bestselling author of The Parasitic Mind and The Saad Truth About Happiness.

The gist

Gad Saad makes his 10th appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, promoting his new book The Saad Truth About Happiness. He opens with a long discussion of rising antisemitism after October 7th, the Israel-Hamas conflict framed through intent versus outcome, and what he calls 'parasitic' ideas spreading from universities. The conversation broadens into evolutionary psychology topics: memory, phobias, animal intelligence, the blank-slate fallacy, and 'suicidal empathy' driving Western immigration policy. Saad and Rogan riff on the human inability to change anchored opinions, scientists who were vindicated only posthumously, and the dangers of AI. The episode closes on storytelling, fame, friendship, tribalism, and AI as both savior and existential threat.

Big reveals

  • Saad reveals his academic CV is about 47 pages long, listing decades of publications and books.
  • Saad shares that his son told him he'd be dead if he wore a Star of David at a Montreal kids' soccer game.
  • Saad recounts being personally invited by Inter Miami's majority owner to a game and meeting Zidane and Beckham.
  • Saad reveals his biggest cancellation attempt came after a prior JRE joke calling the French-Canadian accent 'an affront to human dignity.'
  • Saad explains mathematician Kurt Godel starved to death from paranoia of being poisoned after his wife/food-taster was hospitalized.
  • Saad pitches an AI application of his 'nomological network of cumulative evidence' method, jokingly asking Elon Musk to call him.

Things worth remembering

  • Saad argues intent, not casualty count, should be the moral currency in war, comparing Hamas's stated genocidal charter to the Iron Dome's interception of rockets.
  • Saad cites Pew surveys showing 95-99% of respondents in many Islamic countries expressed antisemitic views in a 2010 study.
  • Saad recounts Ignaz Semmelweis, who urged handwashing, died destitute in an asylum before bacteria were understood.
  • Saad describes memory experiments showing people better recall faces tagged as social cheaters, an evolutionary bias.
  • Saad explains the bowerbird builds elaborate structures and steals shiny objects to attract mates as an artistic mating cue.
  • Rogan notes Genghis Khan's killings reforested land and lowered Earth's carbon footprint, calling it 'green' genocide.
  • Godel's incompleteness theorem and his theory that a rotating universe could permit backward time travel are discussed.
  • They contrast COVID's ~99% survival rate against the Black Death wiping out roughly a third of Europe.
  • John Durant's theory: Jewish purification rituals (part of 613 mitzvot) lowered infection rates, fueling plague-era scapegoating.
  • They discuss DARPA's 'EATR' robot designed to consume biomass for fuel on the battlefield.

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