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Tim Ferriss · 2022-05-11 · 1h 48m

Richard Wiseman on Lessons from Dale Carnegie, Mentalism, The Psychology of the Paranormal, and More

Psychologist and magician Richard Wiseman on the science of luck, lying, dreams, the paranormal, and why so many famous studies are myths.

Richard Wiseman on Lessons from Dale Carnegie, Mentalism, The Psychology of the Paranormal, and More
The guest

Richard Wiseman — Professor of the Public Understanding of Psychology at the University of Hertfordshire, former professional magician, and author of bestselling books (The Luck Factor, 59 Seconds, Paranormality) with psychology YouTube videos (Quirkology) exceeding 500 million views.

The gist

Tim Ferriss interviews Richard Wiseman, a former professional magician who became one of the world's most creative psychologists, holding Britain's only professorship in the public understanding of psychology. They cover Wiseman's parapsychology research and its surprising role in sparking psychology's replication crisis, his mass participation studies (lie detection, the world's funniest joke), and why mentalists, cold readers, and psychics usually fool themselves rather than consciously cheat. The conversation ranges across NLP debunking, lucid dreaming and night terrors, practical insomnia fixes, the malleability of memory and observation, and the psychology of the Apollo mission controllers who 'achieved the impossible.' Throughout, Wiseman stresses tracking down original sources, citing the famous Yale goal study as a complete myth that pervades self-help literature.

Big reveals

  • In the staring-detection study, Wiseman's skeptic-run trials showed no effect while believer colleague Marilyn Schlitz's trials did - a clear experimenter effect; larger replications produced complete null results.
  • Parapsychology, specifically Daryl Bem's precognition study that failed to replicate, became the bizarre catalyst for the entire replication-crisis movement now improving mainstream psychology.
  • In Wiseman's first mass participation lie-detection experiment with 30,000 callers, people watching video detected lies at chance (50%), but accuracy jumped to 61-70% when they only read transcripts or heard audio.
  • Wiseman experimentally tested the NLP claim that eye direction reveals lying, using both staged thefts and real police missing-person press conferences - it showed no validity at all.
  • The widely cited Yale/Harvard goal study (3% with written goals later out-earning the other 97% combined) was never actually run - it is a complete myth spread through self-help books and the web.
  • With suggestion, about 40-50% of people will swear they saw a bent key continue bending or a seance table levitate, demonstrating how malleable memory and observation are.
  • The Apollo mission controllers averaged about 21 years old at start and 28 when Armstrong walked on the moon - mostly first-in-family university students from rural backgrounds, chosen for passion and teamwork.
  • Most psychics, mediums, and remote viewers are not consciously faking; they fool themselves via confirmation bias and treating creative pattern-matching of dreams or guesses as genuine ability.

Things worth remembering

  • Wiseman is a member of the Inner Magic Circle, an elite group of only about 300 magicians worldwide, and performed at the Magic Castle in Hollywood as a teenager.
  • His Laugh Lab study to find the world's funniest joke drew about a million participants and required a full-time employee to remove rude jokes, who amassed a compilation of 40,000 disgusting ones.
  • Wiseman ran what he believes was the first social-media psychology experiment - a remote viewing study on Twitter where followers tried to guess his location (they couldn't).
  • Wiseman suffered from night terrors and joked you can fake one to make a partner get up; he later learned night terrors fade in a cold room and when anxiety is reduced.
  • Getting children (and adults) to re-visualize a recurring nightmare with a positive ending has roughly a 90% success rate at reducing it within a short period.
  • A paradoxical insomnia technique: actively try to keep your eyes open and stay awake, which exhausts you and makes you fall asleep faster.
  • The 'world's funniest joke' Wiseman's study produced involves two hunters in a wood; he refuses to tell it on air due to social pressure to laugh, pointing people to the web instead.
  • Wiseman's 'luck diary' is based on habituation research - recording one daily gratitude or positive item resets attention and gradually shifts people's self-identity toward being luckier.
  • A door-knocker on Wiseman's shelf is an expensive magic prop that knocks on its own, which he uses to convince visiting children his old house is haunted.
  • A veteran performer keeps shows fresh by standing in the wings imagining the day he can no longer perform, letting the sadness sink in, then saying 'it's not tonight though' before going on.

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