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Billy McFarland: The Man Behind The Infamous Fyre Festival Disaster | E202

Fyre Festival founder Billy McFarland on the lies, the collapse, six years in prison, and his attempt at a comeback.

Billy McFarland: The Man Behind The Infamous Fyre Festival Disaster | E202
The guest

Billy McFarland — Entrepreneur and convicted fraudster behind the infamous 2017 Fyre Festival and the Magnises card; served roughly four years and ten months in prison for wire fraud, now building a new venture called Pyrt.

The gist

Steven Bartlett interviews Billy McFarland about his life from a tech-obsessed New Jersey childhood through a string of startups (Spling, Magnises, the Fyre app) that culminated in the disastrous Fyre Festival. McFarland details how a compulsive need to prove himself drove him to lie to investors, sponsors, and ticket buyers, raising over $20 million for a festival he had four months to build. He describes the festival's collapse, his arrest, continued fraud while on bail selling fake event tickets, a six-year prison sentence, and ten months in solitary confinement. He reflects on remorse, restitution, the trauma he witnessed in jail, and his hopes for redemption through his new live-streaming experiences company, Pyrt.

Big reveals

  • McFarland says a childhood friend, not himself, originally suggested doing a music festival on the Bahamian islands.
  • He admits he started lying in the weeks before the December 2016 promo video, lying to Fyre app investors, festival investors, and about Magnises's numbers.
  • He describes an 'urgent payment sheet' where he'd wake up needing up to $4 million by 2pm, surviving like this for almost 60 days.
  • He denies literally ordering Andy King to perform oral sex, saying the 'suck this guy's dick' comment was in jest, meaning go above and beyond to get the water released.
  • An investor threatened him that he'd be in handcuffs on the front page of the Wall Street Journal unless he paid back a seven-figure sum.
  • While on bail he kept committing fraud, selling fake tickets to events like Hamilton, the Met Gala, Burning Man, and Coachella, which got his bail revoked.
  • He spent 10 months total in solitary; a seven-month stint was retaliation for recording a podcast over the jail payphone, nearly being sent to a terrorist facility.
  • The Bahamas government declared him a fugitive and banned him from returning until vendors are paid back.

Things worth remembering

  • McFarland got a cable internet line at age 10 and treated the early web as a 'Wild West' outlet to push boundaries.
  • At 12 he built a private MySpace-style social network for his middle school that blew up before teachers shut it down.
  • He started programming at nine and sold his first company on an auction site as a teenager.
  • Magnises began with him buying a blank black metal card and credit card copier on Alibaba to mimic an Amex Black card.
  • He raised more than $20 million for the festival at age 25, much of it from people who had backed him since he was 19.
  • On the eve of the festival the exhausted team had collapsed asleep when a storm rolled in 'as if On Cue.'
  • On festival day there were nearly 800 mostly local contract workers and McFarland couldn't find any of his core team.
  • He canceled the festival after being wrongly told three people had died, based on false rumors spreading on Twitter.
  • His sentence includes lifetime restitution (wage garnishment) and a lifetime SEC bar from being an officer of a public company.
  • He recounts overhearing a young inmate being raped in Brooklyn Detention Center, who was later slashed with a razor after the assault became known.

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“You've started a new company yeah so I am out so I guess I have to do something now... You've started a company called pirate” — Billy McFarland 01:29:35
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