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Lex Fridman · 2022-09-24 · 2h 21m

Will Sasso: Comedy, MADtv, AI, Friendship, Madness, and Pro Wrestling | Lex Fridman Podcast #323

Comedian Will Sasso talks MADtv, channeling Curly in The Three Stooges, depression, AI-curated comedy, and why love and human connection can't be uploaded.

Will Sasso: Comedy, MADtv, AI, Friendship, Madness, and Pro Wrestling | Lex Fridman Podcast #323
The guest

Will Sasso — Canadian comedian and actor known for his impressions and characters on MADtv (1997-2002), playing Curly in the 2012 film The Three Stooges. Co-host of the 10 Minute Podcast and the AI-curated comedy podcast Dudesy.

The gist

Will Sasso joins Lex Fridman for a wide-ranging, joke-heavy conversation that swings between absurdist bits and surprisingly vulnerable reflection. He explains why he loves acting but avoids stand-up, how playing Curly left mannerisms he couldn't shake, and what made collaborators like Larry David and Frank Caliendo so good. He opens up about depression, therapy, and getting on medication, crediting Bobby Lee for encouraging him to talk about it publicly. The back half digs into AI and creativity through his podcast Dudesy, which is curated by an AI, with Sasso arguing that machines can mimic but never truly capture a human's essence, consciousness, or love. The episode closes on friendship, fatherhood, small acts of kindness, and the meaning of life.

Big reveals

  • Sasso reveals he does talk therapy and is on medication for depression, after Bobby Lee encouraged him to discuss it publicly to help others.
  • Describes the first day on his meds feeling like 'doors and windows were opening' in his brain and taking a rare three-hour nap.
  • Admits that channeling Curly for The Three Stooges left him with involuntary Curly mannerisms he couldn't stop offscreen.
  • Tells the story of repeatedly failing a Curb Your Enthusiasm audition because Larry David kept making him redo the same line.
  • On AI replicas of people: argues uploading consciousness is essentially impossible, but capturing a person's 'essence' digitally is coming soon.
  • Lex and Sasso agree love is real and can't be argued away, contradicting Sasso's Dudesy co-host Chad.
  • Sasso confesses a relentless self-critical inner voice, saying after his MIT lecture he walked home feeling he'd 'wasted everybody's time.'

Things worth remembering

  • Sasso hates wearing suits and prefers shorts; he wore a black suit only to honor the Lex Fridman podcast.
  • He stopped gaming around 2010 after getting the 'red ring of death' on his Xbox 360.
  • Dudesy is pitched as the first podcast run and curated by an AI, which was given access to the hosts' email, search and purchase histories.
  • Frank Caliendo once told a young Sasso his Louie Anderson impression was 'wrong' and corrected it; they became fast friends.
  • Sasso saw entire Three Stooges scenes in black-and-white in his head before filming, channeling Curly (Jerome Lester Horwitz).
  • Hulk Hogan credited his red-and-yellow tights partly to McDonald's brand recognition.
  • Sasso names Bret 'Hitman' Hart the greatest in-ring wrestler and Ric Flair the greatest overall.
  • He cites Hermann Hesse's Steppenwolf: 'learn what is to be taken seriously and laugh at the rest.'

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“this other movie I just did it was a little while ago called American woman that was very heavy” — Will Sasso 02:04:56
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“I've been actually a one-way friend of yours for many many years since Mad TV oh um when did you start on mentee so that was many I mean in 90s 97” — Will Sasso 00:02:35
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