Vaccine-injury attorney Aaron Siri argues that legal immunity broke the safety incentives for vaccines and walks Joe Rogan through the data and depositions behind his case.

Aaron Siri — Managing partner of a national plaintiffs' law firm and one of the most prominent vaccine-injury litigators in the US. He represents clients (including Amish families and the nonprofit ICAN) against federal and state health agencies and wrote the book 'Vaccines: Amen — The Religion of Vaccines.'
Aaron Siri makes the case that the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which gave manufacturers immunity from design-defect lawsuits, removed the normal economic self-interest that forces companies to make products safer. He argues vaccines are uniquely shielded compared to every other consumer product and walks through CDC mortality data, the lack of placebo-controlled trials for routine childhood vaccines, and his FOIA litigation seeking studies that vaccines given in the first six months of life don't cause autism. The conversation expands into COVID-era censorship and lockdowns, regulatory capture and the pharma 'revolving door,' a long tangent on whether the stock market adds value, AI chatbots fabricating studies, and curated search engines. Throughout, Siri frames belief in vaccines as quasi-religious and repeatedly calls for debates with leading vaccinologists, citing his nine-hour deposition of Dr. Stanley Plotkin.