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Joe Rogan · 2025-08-13 · 2h 28m

Joe Rogan Experience #2365 - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

A congresswoman leading the UAP and JFK task forces makes the case for radical government transparency on UFOs, assassinations, and corruption.

Joe Rogan Experience #2365 - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna
The guest

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna — Republican U.S. Representative from Florida, Air Force veteran, and chair of a congressional task force investigating UAPs, the JFK/RFK/MLK assassinations, and the Epstein files. A former Hispanic-activist turned legislator known for pushing declassification and anti-corruption reforms.

The gist

Luna walks Rogan through her congressional task force's work pushing the government to declassify information on UAPs, the JFK assassination, and related cover-ups. She describes being denied access to whistleblowers at Eglin Air Force Base, says she has seen photo evidence of craft she believes were not made by mankind, and argues defense contractors and the intelligence community are illegally hiding world-changing information. The conversation ranges into religion and the Book of Enoch, CIA remote-viewing programs, MK Ultra, Chinese foreign-influence operations, congressional insider trading, immigration, and her own hardscrabble upbringing. Throughout, her core thesis is that transparency builds trust and that Congress needs younger, principled members to break entrenched corruption.

Big reveals

  • Luna says she has seen photo documentation of aircraft she believes were not made by mankind.
  • Claims certain defense contractors may have back-engineered recovered non-human technology.
  • Says she read the Book of Enoch multiple times and ties removed biblical books to the UAP discussion.
  • Reveals whistleblower David Grusch received real threats against his and his wife's lives before testifying.
  • Discusses a declassified 1988 CIA remote-viewing report on locating the Ark of the Covenant.
  • Says the Russian government agreed to release its KGB JFK investigation publicly later this fall.
  • Recounts cutting open a mystery bag in a National Archives skiff and finding a WikiLeaks CD-ROM.
  • Describes an Eglin AFB base commander abruptly leaving a congressional delegation rather than grant access.
  • Alleges Chinese-funded networks (via Neville Singham) were behind staged 'Temu riots' to divide Americans.

Things worth remembering

  • Luna revived 'inherent contempt,' a congressional arrest mechanism unused since the early 1900s, after reading the rule manual twice.
  • The CIA's released 'Joannides file' shows a CIA officer lied to Congress about surveilling Lee Harvey Oswald.
  • She states the CIA now admits Oswald was not a lone gunman and there was evidence of multiple shooters.
  • Tulsi Gabbard reportedly surfaced State Department wires sent before RFK's assassination.
  • Hal Puthoff was tasked under the Bush administration to weigh UFO-disclosure pros and cons; every scientist concluded cons outweighed pros.
  • Members of Congress earning ~$175k a year can leave office worth tens to hundreds of millions; ~80% of Americans oppose congressional stock trading.
  • Tyson Chicken lobbyists reportedly pressured her staff to back off messaging about migrant child labor in slaughterhouses.
  • She's introducing bills to cap credit card interest at 10% and student loan interest at 2.5%.
  • Only 13 women in U.S. history have given birth while serving in Congress; she pushed to let recovering new mothers vote.
  • Time magazine named her one of its 100 most influential after a Washington Post smear piece tried to discredit her background.