Joe Rogan Experience #2017 - Bryan Callen

Bryan Callen and Joe Rogan open on supplements, peptides and stem cells before drifting into a long meditation on faith, masculinity, suffering and what makes Christ-like figures resonate. They spend much of the conversation geeking out over fighters and boxers, from Derrick Lewis and Fabricio Werdum to Usyk, Crawford and Bivol, and over how to train hard without destroying your joints as you age. A second long stretch covers great method actors, Joe's UFO obsession, conspiracy thinking, and the dangers of political prosecutions and legacy-media bias. It closes with riffs on aliens, simulation theory, and Callen's tour dates.

• Callen reveals he was bursting into tears at commercials and broke down crying mid-speech at a friend's wedding, which he traced to Propecia raising his estrogen.
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• Rogan explains he stopped kicking entirely for about a year after repeated knee injuries, relying on stem cells and knees-over-toes rehab to recover.
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• Callen recounts being on the Joker set for five days watching Joaquin Phoenix's extreme method acting, dropping to 124 pounds and improvising self-injurious takes.
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• Rogan explains the Comedy Mothership bar is named Mitzi's in homage to Mitzi Shore, built from the best elements of the Comedy Store.
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• Callen relays the 'devil comes at your highest moment' idea via Denzel Washington to Will Smith and Mike Tyson to Francis Ngannou.
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• Rogan recounts the 1996 Varginha, Brazil UFO incident from the documentary Moment of Contact, including a police officer who reportedly died of an untreatable infection after carrying an entity.
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• Callen and Rogan debate at length whether the government could keep recovered-UFO programs secret, Rogan insisting such a secret is impossible to keep.
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• BPC-157, a peptide nicknamed 'body protecting compound,' is used by Rogan and his circle to speed injury healing.
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• Crocodiles first appeared around 240 million years ago and have kept essentially the same body structure ever since.
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• Kurt Angle won the 1996 Olympic wrestling trials after fracturing two cervical vertebrae, then went on to win Olympic gold.
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• Pavel Tsatsouline's principle: do five reps instead of ten-to-failure to get the same work with faster recovery ('stimulate, don't annihilate').
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• Robert De Niro gained about 66 pounds for Raging Bull, then unheard of for an actor.
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• Pigeons were brought to North America as a food source (squab), which is why city pigeons exist.
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• Lomachenko's father made him stop boxing for two years to learn Ukrainian dance, which became the foundation of his footwork.
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• In underwater nuclear tests, the Navy positioned target ships expecting a certain blast size and was badly off on how powerful it was.
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• In UFO lore, sightings ramped up after the atomic bombs were dropped on Japan, which is why the club's rooms are named Fat Man and Little Boy.
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