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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-19 · 2h 02m

Joe Rogan Experience #2166 - Enhanced Games

The founders of the Enhanced Games argue for open, doctor-supervised performance enhancement and dismantling the Olympic model.

Joe Rogan Experience #2166 - Enhanced Games
The guest

Dr. Aron D'Souza and Christian Angermayer — D'Souza is president and Angermayer co-founder/investor of the Enhanced Games, a doping-permitted alternative Olympics; Angermayer also leads psychedelic biotech firms (Compass, atai).

The gist

Dr. Aron D'Souza and Christian Angermayer pitch the Enhanced Games, a yearly competition that pays athletes, permits FDA-approved performance enhancements under public medical supervision, and replaces drug testing with health testing. They argue the Olympics are financially wasteful, exploit unpaid athletes, and are already riddled with covert doping. The conversation expands into body autonomy, the legal definition of medicine, anti-aging, and Angermayer's advocacy for medically supervised psychedelics backed by rigorous clinical data. They also debate combat sports safety, transgender athletes (proposing XX/XY categories), GLP-1 drugs, and how podcasts shift public perception of enhancement.

Big reveals

  • 44% of Olympians admit to using banned performance-enhancing drugs within the last year, per WADA-commissioned research.
  • The Enhanced Games offers a million-dollar prize for breaking significant world records, plus negotiated base pay around 100k per athlete.
  • More than a thousand professional athletes, many Summer Olympians, applied via a casting call for a Ridley Scott documentary on the Games.
  • Angermayer reveals he has never drunk alcohol and that a 2014 psychedelic trip led him to launch the modern psychedelic medical renaissance.
  • The Games will be funded by Peter Thiel and Balaji Srinivasan among others, run profitably without one host city by spreading events across Sydney, LA, and Las Vegas.
  • D'Souza predicts athletes will break world records at the first Enhanced Games, estimating enhancements add about 5% to performance.
  • Three core rules: only FDA/agency-approved medications, a publicly named responsible doctor per athlete, and onsite health checks including a cardiac MRI that disqualifies anyone with health damage.

Things worth remembering

  • 25% of products in a typical GNC store contain substances banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency.
  • Seven of the ten fastest 100-meter runners in history have had a doping violation, with Usain Bolt the only top-five name without one.
  • David Nutt's Lancet study ranks alcohol as the most harmful drug overall, with heroin second and psychedelics among the least harmful.
  • When creatine emerged after the 1992 Barcelona Olympics, headlines called it a new super steroid and it was banned in Irish and French rugby.
  • GLP-1 drugs added roughly 1 trillion dollars in market cap to Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly, far exceeding the value of all generative AI startups.
  • GLP-1 drugs are prescribed off-label in the US 83% of the time, mostly for weight loss rather than diabetes.
  • About 75% of professional orchestral musicians have used beta blockers, a substance banned under the WADA code.
  • While 2% of the general population is asthmatic, a third or more of swimmers claim asthma to use steroidal inhalers via therapeutic use exemptions.
  • Vitor Belfort became the legendary cautionary example of MMA testosterone-use exemptions, transforming his physique then collapsing once they were banned.

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