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Joe Rogan · 2025-10-29 · 2h 29m

Joe Rogan Experience #2402 - Miranda Lambert

Miranda Lambert and Joe Rogan swap stories on finding focus through hobbies, dodging fame's traps, nicotine and dogs.

Joe Rogan Experience #2402 - Miranda Lambert
The guest

Miranda Lambert — Multi-platinum country music superstar who started playing Texas honky-tonks at 17. She founded the MuttNation animal-rescue foundation and recently took up cowboy mounted shooting and golf.

The gist

A loose, wide-ranging conversation with country star Miranda Lambert. They open on hearing damage from loud music and guns before Miranda explains her late-blooming hobbies of mounted shooting (popping balloons on horseback with black-powder revolvers) and golf, and how active hobbies recharge her creativity. They dig into the craft and grind of building a career the slow way versus the dangers of overnight internet fame, the way schools fail energetic kids, and a long riff on nicotine, vapes and Adderall. The back half turns to a shared love of animals: rescue dogs, the ferocity of backyard chickens, working-dog breeds, premium dog food, and Miranda's MuttNation charity. They close on drinking culture, live music and Miranda's mounted-shooting mentor.

Big reveals

  • Miranda reveals her MuttNation Foundation, started with her mom in 2009, has raised over $11 million for animal shelters.
  • Joe says his first show back after the pandemic came after 332 days of no shows.
  • Miranda admits she caught COVID early on tour before anyone knew what it was, and none of her usual singer recovery tricks worked.
  • Joe pushes the no-backup-plan philosophy, saying a backup plan robs your focus and steals your energy.
  • Joe recounts telling friend Oliver Anthony, during his viral rise, to take no money and sign with nobody.
  • Joe describes watching someone take a 50mg nicotine pouch from overseas and end up violently ill on the ground.
  • Joe says he quit drinking (despite not being an alcoholic) and felt dramatically better after cutting out two-to-four nights a week.
  • Miranda admits there's a girl fight in the pit at almost every single one of her shows during her 'ramp up' set.

Things worth remembering

  • Miranda does cowboy mounted shooting, firing black-powder revolvers from horseback to pop balloons at about 15 feet; it's spectator- and horse-safe.
  • Joe cites deaf pool champion Shane Van Boening, who shuts off his hearing aid to play in total silence.
  • Joe explains nicotine itself isn't bad for you and acts as a neuroprotectant and nootropic; the delivery method is what harms you.
  • Per Perplexity, about 45 million Adderall prescriptions were written in the US in 2024, up from roughly 35 million in 2019.
  • A factory worker testing disposable vapes reportedly does 7,000 to 8,000 puffs per day to verify they work.
  • Chickens are ruthless mouse killers because they're effectively small surviving dinosaurs.
  • The Belgian Malinois is described as a 'meat missile' that leaps over obstacles instead of around them, unlike a German Shepherd.
  • Every modern dog breed, from Chihuahuas to King Charles Spaniels, descends from wolves domesticated by ancient humans.
  • Both use Pilates for core strength; Miranda's trainer prescribed it to help her ride and shoot from horseback.
  • Joe notes a large share of tequila isn't actually made with agave, and the fake stuff hits harder.

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