Human rights strategist Alex Gladstein argues Bitcoin is a Trojan horse that smuggles financial freedom into authoritarian regimes through greed.

Alex Gladstein — Chief Strategy Officer at the Human Rights Foundation and the Oslo Freedom Forum. He focuses on how Bitcoin and encryption can empower people living under authoritarian regimes.
Alex Gladstein joins Lex Fridman to connect human rights with money, information, and politics. He frames negative rights (liberties) as the foundation of free societies and argues that authoritarian regimes (53% of the world's population) commit fraud by faking entitlements while denying liberties. The bulk of the conversation makes the case for Bitcoin as both a sovereign, debasement-proof savings account and an unstoppable, sanctions-resistant payments network for the roughly 87% of people without a stable reserve currency. Gladstein's central thesis is the 'Trojan horse': greedy actors, dictators, and corporations adopt Bitcoin for profit ('number go up') and unwittingly spread a freedom tool ('freedom go up'). They also debate AI surveillance, encryption, federated social media, journalism, and the meaning of freedom.
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Signal Foundation (inferred)
“it's fantastic that tens of millions of people are downloading signal and using it um you should try to be onboarding more and more of your conversations onto signal” — Alex Gladstein 00:38:17Find it on Amazon
Brave Software (inferred)
“people should check out brave it's a great browser um i think it's my favorite browser at this point” — Lex Fridman 00:55:55Find it on Amazon
Moon (inferred)
“there are now mobile wallets that are so slick there's one called moon m-u-n wallet from a team in argentina” — Alex Gladstein 00:54:21Find it on Amazon
BlueWallet (inferred)
“whether it's on an open source software wallet like the blue wallet is a good one for people to check out” — Alex Gladstein 00:52:17Find it on Amazon
Sphinx (inferred)
“it's called a tribal model or like tribes um which is this social environment being built on top of lightning um by uh an app called sphinx” — Alex Gladstein 01:43:30Find it on Amazon
Peter Godwin
“the fear was written by peter godwin it's about the systematic dismantling of zimbabwe under robert mugabe it is a riveting book i think everyone should read it” — Alex Gladstein 02:01:03Find it on Amazon
Masha Gessen
“the man without a face by masha gessen incredible book about modern russia and putin just a masterpiece” — Alex Gladstein 02:02:37Find it on Amazon
Lionel Shriver
“a fiction book uh called the mandibles uh written by lionel shriver this one's good it's a good gift book it's funny it's dark it's witty” — Alex Gladstein 02:02:37Find it on Amazon
Andreas Antonopoulos
“my portal into bitcoin was the internet of money by andreas antonopoulos i just think this is an important one for people to start with” — Alex Gladstein 02:03:39Find it on Amazon
Alex Gladstein (inferred)
“we wrote a book together it's called the little bitcoin book and i'm still proud of it it's 100 pages” — Alex Gladstein 02:05:43Find it on Amazon
Jonathan Bier
“you should read the block size war which is a book on that you can get on amazon by jonathan beer really good kind of like really important to understand” — Alex Gladstein 02:09:54Find it on Amazon
Ian McEwan
“there's a really good book by ian mcewen called saturday a fiction book that takes place during i think 2003 it's really good” — Alex Gladstein 02:21:18Find it on Amazon