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Lex Fridman · 2019-11-01 · 1h 29m

Sean Carroll: Quantum Mechanics and the Many-Worlds Interpretation | Lex Fridman Podcast #47

Physicist Sean Carroll makes the case that the many-worlds interpretation is the simplest, most honest reading of quantum mechanics.

Sean Carroll: Quantum Mechanics and the Many-Worlds Interpretation | Lex Fridman Podcast #47
The guest

Sean Carroll — Theoretical physicist at Caltech and the Santa Fe Institute specializing in quantum mechanics, cosmology, and the arrow of time. He hosts the Mindscape podcast and authored the book Something Deeply Hidden.

The gist

In this second appearance on Lex Fridman's podcast, Sean Carroll explains quantum mechanics and his favored many-worlds interpretation in plain language. They trace the history of physics from Newton and conservation of momentum through atoms, wave functions, entanglement, and Hilbert space. Carroll argues the wave function is real and that observers are nothing special, just quantum systems that become entangled and branch into separate worlds. The conversation extends to emergent space-time, holography and black holes, the arrow of time, and whether consciousness could be fundamental (Carroll thinks not). It closes with reflections on his podcasting and interviewing philosophy.

Big reveals

  • Carroll states that measurement and observers will not play a fundamental role in the ultimate laws of physics, because that's where all the evidence points.
  • He insists definitively that many-worlds does NOT violate conservation of energy: the universe splits into thinner pieces rather than duplicating.
  • He gives a concrete guess for the dimensionality of our observable Hilbert space: 10 to the power of 10 to the power of 122.
  • Carroll argues you should start from the most quantum theory (many-worlds) and build up space-time, rather than quantizing classical gravity.
  • He claims quantum gravity is likely not a local field theory but has weird non-local features we don't yet understand.
  • Carroll says minds are 'pretty classical' and doubts entanglement is crucial to consciousness.
  • He admits he personally never ponders the possibility that consciousness or the observer is fundamental.
  • He says the human mind's inability to rationally comprehend the world is low on the list of things that keep him awake at night.

Things worth remembering

  • Newton almost invented chaos theory, realizing the solar system would be unstable, and thought God intervened to fix the planets' orbits.
  • Avicenna (Ibn Sina) circa 1000 AD first stated a projectile would move at constant velocity in a vacuum, 600 years before Newton.
  • Protons and neutrons are about 1,800 times heavier than electrons, but the lighter electrons do all the chemical work.
  • An orbiting electron would spiral into the nucleus in about 10 to the minus 11 seconds, which is why the solar-system atom model fails.
  • The number of particles in the universe is around 10 to the 88th, dwarfed by Hilbert space's 10 to the 10 to the 122 dimensions.
  • The many-worlds interpretation was invented by Hugh Everett III as a Princeton graduate student in the 1950s.
  • Newton invented calculus 'in his spare time,' which alone would have made him the greatest mathematician.
  • Carroll uses spilled Bordeaux on a tablecloth to illustrate why, in principle, the wave function is reversible but in practice never rewinds.
  • Carroll started his podcast partly to force himself to read the stack of books by authors he interviews.

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