Mycologist Paul Stamets makes the case that psilocybin and mushroom mycelium can heal minds, rescue collapsing bee colonies, and reshape society.

Paul Stamets — World-renowned mycologist, author of eight books on mushrooms, and founder of Host Defense / Fungi Perfecti. He researches psilocybin's effects on the brain and mushroom mycelium's potential to boost immunity in bees, livestock, and humans.
Stamets and Rogan trace the global psilocybin revolution, from the RAND report estimate of 8 million American users to its use for veterans, law enforcement, and terminal cancer patients. Stamets explains the science of psilocybin stimulating neuron growth, the Stoned Ape theory of the McKenna brothers, and historical mushroom use hidden in Egyptian, Christian, and Mesoamerican art. A long stretch covers his own research showing mushroom mycelium (especially Agarikon and turkey tail) can protect bees from colony-collapse viruses and chickens from bird flu, and his frustration with regulatory roadblocks. They close on vaccine policy, the need for full data disclosure, and natural products as adjuncts to conventional medicine.
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Paul Stamets
“Book number eight. Yeah. Who would have known there's so many books to be written on mushrooms? Well, this is state-of-the-art taxonomy.” — Paul Stamets 00:00:01Find it on Amazon
Paul Stamets
“In my book, Myelium Running, I have the best photographs of the largest organism in the world. And I hired an airplane” — Paul Stamets 02:23:35Find it on Amazon
Steven Pressfield
“Presfield talked about that in the war of art. Have you read that book? No. I've got copies of it. He sent me a whole box because back in Los Angeles, I used to keep a stack of them on the table and hand them out to people.” — Joe Rogan 01:26:55Find it on Amazon
Scott Loarie / California Academy of Sciences (inferred)
“there is an app that I'm just in love with called I Naturalist. It was created by a guy named Scott. You can take a phone and you can go out and you can look at a flower, a frog, a mineral, a mushroom.” — Paul Stamets 00:08:52Find it on Amazon
Paul Stamets / Fungi Perfecti
“this is your company, Host Defense. You have great stuff, man. I buy your stuff. You gave me a bunch of it, but I buy it. Well, thank you for your support.” — Joe Rogan 01:48:10Find it on Amazon
Paul Stamets
“they were selling the stem of stack, which is kind of weird because I had my name on it.” — Paul Stamets 02:34:31Find it on Amazon
Kacey Musgraves
“Casey Musgraves, she's superstar in country music. She has an album called Deeper Well that's just amazing.” — Paul Stamets 01:33:38Find it on Amazon