Shawn Ryan and Joe Rogan range across media distrust, the southern border, China, AI, UFOs, and ibogaine healing.

Shawn Ryan — Former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor turned host of the Shawn Ryan Show, a long-form podcast focused on military, intelligence, and veteran issues.
Joe Rogan hosts Shawn Ryan for a wide-ranging conversation that opens on UFO/UAP skepticism and government secrecy before moving into food additives, FDA corruption, and media manipulation. They spend significant time on election theater, the porous southern border, the Afghanistan withdrawal, and the national-security threat posed by China across the power grid, semiconductors, and espionage. The back half turns philosophical, covering AI as a possible new life form, remote viewing, lost human instincts, and alien abduction accounts. The episode closes with Shawn's personal ibogaine experience that ended his alcohol and Adderall addiction, plus the origin stories of both men's podcasts.
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Yuka
“have you heard of the Yuka app no dude you got to get the Yuka app what is it so you basically scan anything food related” — Shawn Ryan 00:09:25Find it on Amazon
Apple
“I have a iPhone 11 that I use sometimes like one of my numbers works great nothing wrong with it” — Joe Rogan 01:10:20Find it on Amazon