Ky Dickens — Documentary filmmaker and creator of the hit podcast The Telepathy Tapes, now expanding it into a feature film. She investigates apparent telepathy and other 'spiritual gifts' in non-speaking autistic individuals.
The gist
Ky Dickens explains how making The Telepathy Tapes led her to conclude that many non-speaking people with apraxia can read minds, see auras, speak untaught languages, and more. She and Rogan explore 'spelling to communicate,' the stigma and institutional gatekeeping around it, and the materialist scientific paradigm that dismisses such claims. The conversation widens into consciousness as the fundamental basis of reality, the 'Hill' telepathic chat room many non-speakers describe, and parallels with near-death experiences, animal telepathy, and psychedelics. They close on the corrosive effects of wealth and 'playing the numbers game,' a long hunting tangent on animal senses, and skepticism versus open-minded objectivity.
Big reveals
- Dickens claims The Telepathy Tapes essentially proved telepathy is real in non-speaking individuals.
- Describes a non-speaking girl spontaneously spelling in Portuguese, Spanish, and identifying hieroglyphics she was never taught.
- Rogan floats getting a non-speaking child to read the undeciphered Voynich manuscript.
- Details the 'Hill,' a telepathic chat room non-speakers across the world independently describe by the same name.
- A neurotypical man who cured his own stage-four cancer says he learned to access the Hill.
- Says love is the 'baseline' that unlocks telepathy, and non-speakers define love as 'anything that unifies.'
- Rogan argues much of the public UAP discussion feels like disinformation from intelligence assets.
- Dickens lays out her three goals: presume competence, validate spelling in schools, and a consciousness-first paradigm shift.
Things worth remembering
- Spelling to communicate works because speaking is a fine motor skill while pointing to letters is a gross motor skill.
- Researcher Bernard Rimland proposed in the 1970s that ESP should be considered a savant skill.
- Sign language, Braille, and now spelling all faced decades of being branded fake before acceptance.
- Rupert Sheldrake's 'mental field' theory frames telepathy like gravity or magnetism—an invisible but real field.
- Mark Twain coined the term 'mental telegraphy' after letters to estranged friends kept crossing in the mail.
- Rogan says a friend, Josh Dubin, has gotten innocent people freed from prison via the podcast.
- A dog can smell individual ingredients in a hamburger; a bear's nose is about ten times stronger.
- Mule deer are the most alert deer species because they are constantly hunted by mountain lions.
- Elon Musk says Neuralink will eventually let people 'talk without words.'