Computational neuroscientist Terry Sejnowski explains how a single learning algorithm drives motivation, how to learn better, and why AI and brains are converging.

Dr. Terry Sejnowski — Professor at the Salk Institute who directs the Computational Neurobiology Laboratory and is a pioneer of computational neuroscience and machine learning. He co-created the Boltzmann machine with Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton and co-founded the wildly popular 'Learning How to Learn' online course.
Andrew Huberman and Terry Sejnowski explore how the brain works at the 'algorithmic' level between molecules and behavior, centering on the reinforcement-learning value function that governs all motivation via dopamine. They contrast cognitive vs. procedural learning and argue both are essential, warning against schools dropping practice-based learning. The conversation covers practical tools for better learning, sleep spindles and memory consolidation, exercise and mitochondria as the key to lifelong energy, and the surprising parallels between large language models and the human brain. They also dig into ketamine, schizophrenia, the glutamate hypothesis, Parkinson's, free will, consciousness, dreams, and how AI can act as an 'idea pump' to forage future scientific discoveries.
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