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Joe Rogan · 2025-04-02 · 2h 33m

Joe Rogan Experience #2298 - Kurt Metzger

Joe Rogan and Kurt Metzger riff for 2.5 hours on deep-state conspiracies, eugenics, regime change, paid protesters, and aliens.

Joe Rogan Experience #2298 - Kurt Metzger
The guest

Kurt Metzger — Stand-up comedian and writer known for his work on Inside Amy Schumer and as a regular sidekick on The Jimmy Dore Show. He grew up a Jehovah's Witness and is known for combative, conspiracy-tinged political commentary.

The gist

This is a sprawling, free-associating conversation with almost no central topic. Metzger and Rogan jump from meme-coin scams and Social Security to CIA regime-change operations, the JFK assassination, and the history of eugenics. Long stretches cover supposedly paid/organized anti-Tesla protests, USAID and Taliban payments, deported pro-Palestinian students, and the idea that gangs, crack, and the school system were engineered. Lighter tangents include the history of court dwarfs, the Nazi-killed Wizard of Oz dwarves, a giant French butt-plug sculpture, Neanderthals, and ancient-alien lore. It closes on fluoride, soda companies funding health organizations, and welfare myths.

Big reveals

  • Kurt wears 'Shirts for Kurts' tees naming classified ops like Timber Sycamore, the CIA program to arm Syrian rebels against Assad.
  • Claims Oliver Stone says NBC is sitting on a hidden secondary copy of JFK assassination film footage.
  • Plays audio of Florida GOP candidate William Braddock allegedly threatening a Russian-Ukrainian hit squad against rival Anna Paulina Luna.
  • Kurt details his Jehovah's Witness upbringing and the church's record sex-abuse settlement, comparing in-house cover-ups to the Catholic Church and Epstein.
  • Both assert the CIA helped create American street gangs and flooded inner cities with crack and guns to fuel private prisons.
  • Extended argument that anti-Tesla protests are paid and centrally organized, citing chant sheets and protesters leaving exactly at noon.
  • Discusses drone whistleblower Daniel Hale, jailed 45 months for leaking that ~90% of drone-strike casualties were civilians.
  • Reagan's famous 'welfare queen' story is shown to be a gross exaggeration of a minor fraud case.

Things worth remembering

  • Eugenics originated in America and England before the Nazis adopted it.
  • Some Wizard of Oz Munchkins were European little-person actors brought to the US, escaping Nazi persecution.
  • Court dwarf Jeffrey Hudson (1619-1682) was served to a queen baked inside a giant pie and later killed a man in a duel.
  • Cecil Rhodes founded both apartheid policy and took over the De Beers diamond name.
  • Claim that the modern school system descends from a Prussian effort to condition soldiers who would kill in war.
  • Audi's predecessor, Auto Union, used concentration-camp labor and built seven labor camps for the SS.
  • Theory that the 1982 Tylenol cyanide poisonings may have been corporate sabotage by a Bayer-linked competitor.
  • The original US Pledge of Allegiance used the straight-arm 'Bellamy salute,' changed to hand-over-heart during WWII; 'under God' added in the 1950s.
  • Coca-Cola sponsored 95 national health organizations and PepsiCo sponsored 13 before several dropped the contracts around 2015.

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RecommendedBook

Trance Formation of America

Cathy O'Brien

“think Kathy O'Brien's book... I would go back and again on audible, go back and listen to it because it's amazing how much of this stuff correlates to stuff right now” — Kurt Metzger 01:38:21
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