Cal Newport on building a deep life through slow productivity, digital minimalism, craft, and contemplation in an age of distraction.

Cal Newport — Associate professor of computer science at Georgetown University (PhD from MIT) who researches the theory of distributed systems. He is a New Yorker contributing writer, host of the Deep Questions podcast, and author of seven books including Deep Work, Digital Minimalism, and A World Without Email.
Tim Ferriss interviews Cal Newport about crafting a 'deep life'—one that is resilient, meaningful, and intentional rather than driven by busyness and digital distraction. Cal traces his career from writing student-advice books in college through becoming an MIT theoretician and New Yorker writer, and explains his emerging concept of 'slow productivity,' which shifts the scale of meaningful work from days and weeks to months and years. They discuss his concrete systems—roles-and-values documents, rooted/multiscale planning, Trello boards, shutdown rituals, and seasonal time off the grid. The conversation also explores humor writing as craft, why Cal never joined social media, the philosophy of meaning and religion, and his 30-day digital declutter framework.
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Steve Martin (inferred)
“because he wrote his memoir Born Standing Up which was a professional memoir the whole point of the book” — Cal Newport 00:01:34Find it on Amazon
Tim Ferriss (inferred)
“my career at least in any credible sense didn't start with that and really it was the 4-Hour Workweek that put me on any map” — Tim Ferriss 00:07:23Find it on Amazon
Cal Newport (inferred)
“I had pitched it as Conquer College and the head of the agency said you can't have the hard Ks right after each other so we changed it to How to Win at College” — Cal Newport 00:16:10Find it on Amazon
Cal Newport (inferred)
“this was How to Become a Straight A Student this ended up becoming probably the biggest of my student books” — Cal Newport 00:16:40Find it on Amazon
Tim Ferriss (inferred)
“that is why for instance in the 4-Hour Body or other books, Tools of Titans, certain I have written books in a modular way” — Tim Ferriss 00:19:17Find it on Amazon
Tim Ferriss (inferred)
“that is why for instance in the 4-Hour Body or other books, Tools of Titans, certain I have written books in a modular way” — Tim Ferriss 00:19:17Find it on Amazon
John McPhee (inferred)
“there's a book called Draft No. 4 by John McPhee who's a staff writer at the New Yorker and just a behemoth of a craftsman” — Tim Ferriss 00:27:35Find it on Amazon
Dave Barry (inferred)
“just read his collections he has his collections are fantastic his whole thing was to set up and then he would come in with the absurd punch” — Cal Newport 00:32:54Find it on Amazon
Bill Bryson (inferred)
“Bill Bryson and for people who want a place to start, A Walk in the Woods which is rediscovering America on the Appalachian Trail” — Tim Ferriss 00:35:59Find it on Amazon
John Gribbin (inferred)
“perhaps you could speak to John Gribbin's book The Scientists you mentioned a bunch of scientists earlier in this conversation” — Tim Ferriss 00:36:30Find it on Amazon
Neal Stephenson (inferred)
“my favorite is probably Cryptonomicon which I think is a rare choice as a favorite but personally well not in my world computer scientists love Cryptonomicon” — Tim Ferriss 00:48:52Find it on Amazon
Neal Stephenson (inferred)
“you know Neil Stevenson he wrote that great essay years ago Why I'm a Bad Correspondent yeah so good so good it's so good” — Cal Newport 00:45:16Find it on Amazon
Cal Newport (inferred)
“I do these other things, deep work I think talks about this for sure but then also we talk a lot on my blog” — Cal Newport 01:17:46Find it on Amazon
Cal Newport (inferred)
“burkeman comes at it from like a humanist way I kind of come at it from a humanist way too in Digital Minimalism it's about improving your life” — Cal Newport 01:23:30Find it on Amazon
Cal Newport (inferred)
“links to everything all the resources to all of Cal's books including Deep Work, Digital Minimalism and his latest A World Without Email” — Tim Ferriss 02:04:19Find it on Amazon
Jenny Odell (inferred)
“the artist and writer Jenny Odell published a book titled How to Do Nothing subtitle Resisting the Attention Economy” — Cal Newport 01:18:48Find it on Amazon
Celeste Headlee (inferred)
“followed by Celeste Headlee, do nothing subtitle how to break away from overworking overdoing and underliving” — Cal Newport 01:18:48Find it on Amazon
Devon Price (inferred)
“Devon Price's Laziness Does Not Exist ... Price's book is great I blurbed that book” — Cal Newport 01:19:50Find it on Amazon
Oliver Burkeman (inferred)
“Oliver Burkeman's new book ... 4,000 weeks time management for Mortals ... I blurbed that book because it's great” — Cal Newport 01:20:51Find it on Amazon
Hubert Dreyfus and Sean Dorrance Kelly (inferred)
“there's this great book called All Things Shining and it was written by a philosopher from Harvard and a philosopher from Berkeley” — Cal Newport 01:35:35Find it on Amazon
Karen Armstrong (inferred)
“the author Karen Armstrong makes this argument very well in her book The Case for God ... I've been just trying to get people to read her” — Cal Newport 01:47:39Find it on Amazon
Cal Newport (inferred)
“we'll also link to a number of his New Yorker pieces to the Deep Questions podcast and you can find him online” — Tim Ferriss 02:04:50Find it on Amazon
Literature & Latte (inferred)
“I have found Scrivener just to be a lifesaver in that department ... I've used Scrivener for many many years” — Tim Ferriss 01:10:34Find it on Amazon
Atlassian (inferred)
“Trello has been my tool of choice recently for organizing tasks and the way I actually use it is I do a different board” — Cal Newport 01:14:40Find it on Amazon