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Joe Rogan · 2024-11-02 · 2h 07m

Joe Rogan Experience #2222 - John Fetterman

Senator John Fetterman tells Joe Rogan about surviving a near-fatal stroke, his depression and recovery, and money's corrosive grip on politics.

Joe Rogan Experience #2222 - John Fetterman
The guest

John Fetterman — U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania, former mayor of Braddock and lieutenant governor, known for hoodies and blunt, plainspoken politics

The gist

John Fetterman recounts the 2022 stroke that nearly killed him three days before his Senate primary, the pacemaker implant, and the auditory-processing issues that now require live captioning. He opens up candidly about a severe post-victory depression, checking himself into Walter Reed, and his message to others struggling with self-harm to 'stay in the game.' Much of the conversation centers on his core argument that unlimited money, born of Citizens United, is destroying American democracy by funding personal-destruction ad campaigns. He and Rogan have a long, civil debate over immigration, voter ID, border security, manufacturing, energy, AI-driven job loss, and food quality. Throughout, Fetterman positions himself as a pro-immigration but pro-secure-border pragmatist who values authenticity over political polish.

Big reveals

  • Fetterman reveals his heart effectively stopped and doctors gave him no certainty he would survive after the stroke.
  • Doctors implanted a pacemaker right before the primary to manage the AFib that damaged his heart.
  • He discloses checking himself into Walter Reed for depression during his first half-year in the Senate.
  • He admits his depression worsened after winning and that he reached a dark place involving thoughts of self-harm.
  • Roughly $100 million in paid media was spent attacking him; the race topped $330 million, most expensive Senate race in history.
  • Out of millions of 2020 Pennsylvania votes, only five or six fraud cases existed, and those were Republicans voting with dead relatives' names.
  • After serving as mayor 13 years, he fought the Nippon purchase of U.S. Steel from his rooftop and helped jam up the deal with the White House.
  • Fetterman credits following Sean Baker and carnivore-style eating with helping him personally lose weight.

Things worth remembering

  • Fetterman says he dresses in hoodies and shorts partly because he is claustrophobic, can't afford custom suits, and has 'chopstick legs and no ass.'
  • The doctor who saved his life was usually based in Delaware and only happened to be at the hospital to give Fetterman an advocacy award.
  • He won all 67 Pennsylvania counties in his primary despite recovering from a stroke.
  • His campaign hammered opponent Dr. Oz for living in New Jersey, even getting Snooki to do a Cameo.
  • Trump won Pennsylvania in 2016 by about 45,000 votes by running up 80-20 'Romney margins' in red counties.
  • Fetterman cites the Golden Gate Bridge survivor who said he regretted jumping the instant he cleared the rail.
  • Fox News had to pay $800 million in defamation for false Dominion voting-machine fraud claims.
  • McDonald's fries in the UK have three ingredients while American versions contain many more.
  • Three Mile Island, which Fetterman evacuated as a child, is reopening so Microsoft can buy nuclear power for data centers.
  • Rogan describes a fully driverless car passing him and a Waymo traffic jam in Austin where robot cars clogged an intersection.

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