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Joe Rogan Experience #2043 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

Joe Rogan, Francis Foster and Konstantin Kisin riff on free speech, censorship, masculinity, crime, AI, war, psychedelics, gender ideology and the gospel of new media.

Joe Rogan Experience #2043  - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin
The guest

Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin — British comedians and co-hosts of the Triggernometry podcast; Kisin is also an author and free-speech commentator

The gist

Joe Rogan hosts Triggernometry's Francis Foster and Konstantin Kisin for a sprawling, opinion-driven conversation. They argue that social media incentivizes outrage and that face-to-face conversation, free speech and the willingness to be wrong are the antidotes. Threads run through crime and policing, the failures of defunding the police, masculinity and gender ideology, immigration and borders, and the dangers of censorship in Canada and the UK. The back half drifts into AI and automation, war and historical atrocities, UFOs/UAPs, psychedelics as a replacement for religion, and a long boxing/MMA tangent about Ngannou, Fury, Wilder and Jon Jones. Throughout, the trio frame independent 'new media' podcasting as a vital corrective to corporate media's incentive structures.

Big reveals

  • Claim that around 3,000 people in the UK were arrested in 2018 over social-media posts.
  • Lowe's reportedly lost nearly $1 billion to 'shrink' (theft) in 2022, up from $796 million in 2021.
  • Canada's proposed bill would force podcast platforms making over $10 million revenue to register with the government and hand over content and listener data.
  • Trudeau's government froze the bank accounts not only of trucker protesters but of people who donated to them.
  • UK Royal Air Force found to have unlawfully discriminated against white male recruits in a push to boost diversity.
  • DARPA's 'EATR' robot is designed to forage biomass for fuel, raising the prospect of a battlefield machine that consumes bodies.
  • Per Tom O'Neil's book Chaos, 1970s US drug scheduling is argued to have been partly aimed at breaking up the anti-war and civil-rights movements.
  • Francis recounts a mushroom-and-tobacco ceremony where he felt he experienced dying and came away convinced God exists.

Things worth remembering

  • Genghis Khan's conquests are said to have killed roughly 10% of the world's population, lowering humanity's carbon footprint.
  • The WWII de Havilland Mosquito fighter plane was made almost entirely of wood, making it fast and nimble.
  • Old depictions of Christmas feature the psychoactive Amanita muscaria mushroom and elves.
  • Ancient wine vessels at Eleusis tested positive for ergot, suggesting participants in the Eleusinian Mysteries were tripping.
  • A 'skyscraper-sized air purifier' built in China is claimed to cut pollution in a metro area by about 20%.
  • India's average life expectancy rose from roughly 37 years at the 1947 partition to over 80 today.
  • Nuclear power has caused fewer total casualties than hydro; one Chinese dam collapse killed more people than all major nuclear disasters combined.
  • Estimates that 80-90% of ocean fish have been removed, and the Pacific Garbage Patch is larger than Texas.
  • Much of the lithium the world needs sits in eastern Ukraine, which was projected to be the second-biggest producer after China.

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RecommendedBook

The New Puritans

Andrew Doyle

“shout out to our friend Andrew Doyle in his new book the new Puritans Andrew is awesome did he ever get kicked off of Twitter” — Konstantin Kisin 00:53:36
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