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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27 · 2h 37m

Joe Rogan Experience #1986 - Jack Carr

Former Navy SEAL turned thriller author Jack Carr talks writing, Hollywood, military accountability, geopolitics, social media, and UFOs with Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan Experience #1986 - Jack Carr
The guest

Jack Carr — Former Navy SEAL sniper turned #1 bestselling thriller author of the Terminal List / James Reese series and executive producer of the Amazon Prime adaptation.

The gist

Jack Carr joins Joe Rogan around the release of his latest James Reese novel to discuss his transition from the SEAL Teams to writing and Hollywood. They cover the no-paid-product-placement ethos of the Terminal List show, the writers' strike halting season two and a Taylor Kitsch prequel spin-off, and how real combat experience feeds his fiction. The conversation ranges widely into beer-marketing controversies, hunting and wildlife conservation, and a long examination of military accountability and the military-industrial complex since 1947. Carr and Rogan also dig into geopolitics (Ukraine, Russia's demographic decline, China/Taiwan), media manipulation, and an extended exchange about UFO encounters from Commander Fravor to Bob Lazar.

Big reveals

  • Hooten Young's Jack Carr Edition cigars contain World Trade Center steel and laminated dirt from historic special-ops sites including D-Day's Omaha Beach, Operation Eagle Claw, and the Mogadishu Black Hawk Down crash site.
  • Jack Daniel's lawyers aggressively went after his 'Carr' whiskey trademark simply because it contains the name 'Jack.'
  • Carr is pencils-down on the Terminal List season two scripts out of respect for the writers' strike, and would join the WGA after writing the finale.
  • He is writing his first non-fiction book, on the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing, with Pulitzer Prize finalist historian James Scott.
  • Peter Zeihan's 2014 book predicted a Russian invasion of Ukraine by 2022, which Carr wove into his second novel before it actually happened.
  • A Ben Edwards prequel spin-off starring Taylor Kitsch plus a True Believer season two are both in development at Amazon.
  • Chris Pratt ended up with the manuscript through Jared Shaw, repaying a favor Carr did for him leaving the SEAL Teams.
  • Carr plans to build a 1985-themed 'time machine' room and treat his everyday phone like a wall-corded landline to escape constant connectivity.

Things worth remembering

  • The Terminal List show has zero paid product placement; all featured items are veteran-made brands used as character-development tools.
  • Pioneers preferred bear meat and shot deer mainly for skins, each worth a dollar, which is why a dollar is called a 'buck.'
  • The sportsman-backed Pittman-Robertson Act self-imposes a tax on ammunition and hunting gear that funds billions in wildlife conservation.
  • The 1983 Beirut barracks bombing killed 241 U.S. personnel, the largest Marine loss of life since Iwo Jima.
  • The Afghanistan Papers revealed generals testified optimistically to Congress while privately calling the war a disaster.
  • David Goggins reportedly records haters' comments and plays them back to himself while running.
  • In the 1983 Able Archer scare, a Soviet duty officer refused to launch a retaliatory strike after a system glitch falsely showed U.S. missiles incoming.
  • On Facebook, 19 of the top 20 Christian pages were found to be run by Russian troll farms.
  • Commander Fravor's 2004 'Tic Tac' UFO off San Diego dropped from over 50,000 feet to 50 feet in under a second.
  • Jackie Gleason was allegedly shown frozen alien wreckage by Nixon and later built a UFO-shaped house in upstate New York.

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“in my first book I talk about how you show me a politician in Washington and I'm going to show you a family member” — Jack Carr 01:05:02
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