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Andrew Huberman · 2024-02-26 · 2h 54m

Protocols for Excellent Parenting & Improving Relationships of All Kinds | Dr. Becky Kennedy

Clinical psychologist Dr. Becky Kennedy teaches sturdy parenting through boundaries and empathy, making kids feel real and safe.

Protocols for Excellent Parenting & Improving Relationships of All Kinds | Dr. Becky Kennedy
The guest

Dr. Becky Kennedy — Clinical psychologist specializing in parent-child relationships, trained at Duke and Columbia. Author of the bestselling book 'Good Inside' and founder of the Good Inside online learning platform for parents.

The gist

Andrew Huberman interviews clinical psychologist Dr. Becky Kennedy about protocols for excellent parenting and improving relationships of all kinds. She frames the parent's job as two tasks: setting boundaries (things you do that require nothing of the other person) and providing empathy/validation. Central concepts include 'sturdiness,' the power of saying 'I believe you,' rejecting rewards and punishments in favor of building skills, and reframing entitlement as a fear of frustration. The conversation extends these tools to romantic, workplace, and self relationships, and covers repair after conflict, deeply feeling kids, adolescence, co-parenting, and knowing when to seek additional help.

Big reveals

  • Dr. Becky defines a parent's two jobs as boundaries (things we tell people we will do that require the other person to do nothing) and empathy/validation.
  • She defines sturdiness as the ability to be connected to yourself and to someone else at the same time, the key to healthy relationships.
  • Saying 'I believe you' to an upset child gives them a core need and builds confidence, which she defines as self-trust rather than feeling good about yourself.
  • Dr. Becky abandoned the reward-and-punishment training she learned, telling a client mid-session 'I don't believe anything I've been telling you.'
  • She redefines entitlement as a fear of frustration: kids who never sit in frustration encode it next to fear, producing demanding, threatened behavior.
  • Trauma is not the event but how it gets processed; a hard event processed in aloneness becomes traumatic, while one processed in safe connection does not.
  • Dr. Becky describes 'deeply feeling kids' who feel emotions intensely, can seem animalistic in tantrums, and reject typical parenting strategies.
  • On a cutting teen, she models the script 'my number one job is to keep you safe, it is not to keep you happy with me,' as loving firmness.

Things worth remembering

  • The only way a child can learn to regulate a feeling is by feeling the feeling, so validation and boundaries are partners, not opposites.
  • Kids are born with all the feelings and none of the skills to manage them; bad behavior is feelings without a skill to manage them.
  • Citing Ronald Fairburn: for kids it is better to be a sinner in a world ruled by God than to live in a world ruled by the devil.
  • Huberman cites the anterior mid-cingulate cortex, activated when people do things they don't want to do, as plastic and linked to resilience.
  • Lisa Feldman Barrett's research shows cultures with more nuanced emotion language have better emotion tolerance.
  • Dr. Becky argues the cost to children of parents not setting boundaries has never been higher while it has never been harder to set them.
  • The 'strange situation' attachment experiment and toddlers looking back at parents illustrate explorers needing a secure home base.
  • Adolescents must overcorrect and take distance to form identity; that distance is not their final point and they still deeply need parents.
  • Dr. Becky offers barometers for when to seek help: impact on functioning, a shrinking world, and walking on eggshells at home.
  • She notes research shows having one sturdy leader in your life is massively protective for a child.

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Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be

Dr. Becky Kennedy

“she is the author of the bestselling book good inside a Guide to Becoming the parent you want to be” — Andrew Huberman 00:00:30
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