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Tim Ferriss · 2022-11-16 · 1h 54m

The Coming Cold War II — Niall Ferguson

Historian Niall Ferguson argues we've already entered Cold War II with China, with Taiwan as the new Cuba-style flashpoint.

The Coming Cold War II — Niall Ferguson
The guest

Niall Ferguson — Historian, Hoover Institution senior fellow, author of 16 books (including Kissinger, Civilization, and Doom), and founder of advisory firm Greenmantle.

The gist

Niall Ferguson walks Tim Ferriss through his unconventional path from Rust Belt Glasgow to Oxbridge high tables and a three-track career as academic, public intellectual, and advisor. He explains his philosophy of history, the role of contingency and counterfactual thinking, and why reading unpublished archival material matters more than synthesizing published work. The conversation's centerpiece is his case that the US and China are already in 'Cold War II,' with Taiwan as the flashpoint, technological containment as a risky strategy, and economic interdependence offering no real protection against conflict. Ferguson closes with reflections on fatherhood, raising children in a Christian 'operating system' despite his own atheism, his marriage to ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and living without fear despite fatwa-related threats.

Big reveals

  • As a poor graduate student, Ferguson secretly wrote journalism under pseudonyms like 'Alec Campbell' and 'F.F. Gillespie' for the Daily Mail and Punch, leading a double life until a rival 'outed' him at high table.
  • Ferguson declares 'We're in a new cold war, in Cold War II' and frames rethinking the original Cold War as a matter of urgency to avoid repeating mistakes.
  • He predicts the US and China are on a collision course over Taiwan, possibly a showdown around the 2024 Taiwanese election, calling Taiwan 'what Cuba was to the last cold war.'
  • He warns the US strategy of technological containment via semiconductor sanctions is historically a stretch and actually raises Xi Jinping's incentive to seize Taiwan.
  • Ferguson predicts a high probability of a Republican president by January 2025 and says a reelected Trump 'could call off Cold War II in an afternoon' by flying to Beijing for a deal.
  • He revives his 2007 coinage 'Chimerica' and argues economic interdependence does not prevent war, citing how fast UK-Germany decoupled in 1914 and Russia decoupled after February 2022.
  • Greenmantle's track record: in January 2020 it told clients a global pandemic was coming, in early 2021 warned of inflation, and in early 2022 forecast Russia invading Ukraine at 80 percent probability.
  • Despite the fatwa against his wife and the attack on Salman Rushdie, Ferguson says fear 'is not a factor,' crediting a Scottish upbringing and an impulse to 'march towards the sound of gunfire.'

Things worth remembering

  • Ferguson quotes Henry Kissinger on academic politics: 'It's so poisonous because the stakes are so low.'
  • As the junior-most fellow at Christ's College, Cambridge, he shamelessly drank the dregs of leftover Chateau Lafite to flatter patron Sir John Plumb.
  • He notes the world came 'within a hair's breadth of World War III' when a Soviet submarine commander gave the order to fire a nuclear torpedo during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
  • Ferguson dismisses Christopher Hitchens' book on Kissinger as containing only about 12 footnotes, calling it 'a polemical hatchet job' of 'outrageous superficiality.'
  • He proposes judging books by their 'ratio of words read to words written,' describing himself as a 1,000-to-1 writer who digs deeply into unpublished archives.
  • On Africa, he recounts an African friend's complaint that the US tells countries not to buy Huawei but offers no affordable alternative: 'try Ericsson, it's way more expensive.'
  • Ferguson notes 92 percent of the world's most sophisticated semiconductors are manufactured by TSMC in Taiwan.
  • He decoded the Rothschild brothers' letters (written in hard-to-read Hebrew characters) by having scholar Mordechai Zucker read them aloud onto audio cassettes.
  • During the pandemic Ferguson lived in Montana for a year, not traveling more than five miles from the house, and took daily 'philosophical walks' with his son.
  • Ferguson's wife is Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an ex-Muslim apostate and former Dutch MP; he recommends her memoir 'Infidel' as a starting point.

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