Historian Niall Ferguson argues we've already entered Cold War II with China, with Taiwan as the new Cuba-style flashpoint.

Niall Ferguson — Historian, Hoover Institution senior fellow, author of 16 books (including Kissinger, Civilization, and Doom), and founder of advisory firm Greenmantle.
Niall Ferguson walks Tim Ferriss through his unconventional path from Rust Belt Glasgow to Oxbridge high tables and a three-track career as academic, public intellectual, and advisor. He explains his philosophy of history, the role of contingency and counterfactual thinking, and why reading unpublished archival material matters more than synthesizing published work. The conversation's centerpiece is his case that the US and China are already in 'Cold War II,' with Taiwan as the flashpoint, technological containment as a risky strategy, and economic interdependence offering no real protection against conflict. Ferguson closes with reflections on fatherhood, raising children in a Christian 'operating system' despite his own atheism, his marriage to ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and living without fear despite fatwa-related threats.
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Niall Ferguson
“He's the author of 16 books, good Lord, that's a lot of books, including The Pity of War, The House of Rothschild, Empire, Civilization, and Kissinger” — Tim Ferriss 00:00:31Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson
“He's the author of 16 books... including The Pity of War, The House of Rothschild, Empire, Civilization, and Kissinger, 1923-1968: The Idealist” — Tim Ferriss 00:00:31Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson
“He's the author of 16 books... including The Pity of War, The House of Rothschild, Empire, Civilization, and Kissinger, 1923-1968: The Idealist” — Tim Ferriss 00:00:31Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson
“He's the author of 16 books... including The Pity of War, The House of Rothschild, Empire, Civilization, and Kissinger, 1923-1968: The Idealist” — Tim Ferriss 00:00:31Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson
“including The Pity of War, The House of Rothschild, Empire, Civilization, and Kissinger, 1923-1968: The Idealist, which won the Council on Foreign Relations Arthur Ross Prize” — Tim Ferriss 00:00:31Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson (inferred)
“He's an award-winning filmmaker too, having won an international Emmy for his PBS series The Ascent of Money” — Tim Ferriss 00:00:31Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson
“His 2018 book, The Square and the Tower, was a New York Times bestseller and also adapted for television by PBS as Niall Ferguson's Networld” — Tim Ferriss 00:01:03Find it on Amazon
PBS (inferred)
“The Square and the Tower, was a New York Times bestseller and also adapted for television by PBS as Niall Ferguson's Networld” — Tim Ferriss 00:01:03Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson
“His latest book, Doom, subtitled, The Politics of Catastrophe, was published last year by Penguin and was shortlisted for the Lionel Gerber Prize” — Tim Ferriss 00:01:34Find it on Amazon
A.J.P. Taylor
“One of the most controversial books he ever wrote was a book on the origins of the Second World War, in which he argued very paradoxically as a contrarian” — Niall Ferguson 00:29:15Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson
“And I wrote a lot about that in The Pity Of War and in the book Virtual History because I think it's important for people to understand” — Niall Ferguson 00:35:17Find it on Amazon
Dan Carlin
“By the way, Dan Carlin is great. Dan Carlin is great. I love what he does... But Carlin's doing terrific work.” — Niall Ferguson 00:44:34Find it on Amazon
Dan Carlin
“I recently heard his great interview with Elon Musk about the technology of World War II. It's brilliant, and it's brilliant partly because Elon knows a lot” — Niall Ferguson 00:44:34Find it on Amazon
A.J.P. Taylor
“Taylor's masterpiece is quite a dense read, and I wouldn't recommend it, The Struggle for Mastery in Europe. That's the book I most admire” — Niall Ferguson 00:40:40Find it on Amazon
George Orwell
“Read Orwell's amazing essays. There are four fantastic volumes of Orwell's essays... You will just feel like you are eating Turkish delight as you read” — Niall Ferguson 00:41:10Find it on Amazon
Niall Ferguson
“I think the analytical framework of the book Colossus was correct, namely the neo conservative project to build empires in Iraq and Afghanistan will fail” — Niall Ferguson 01:25:03Find it on Amazon
Chris Miller
“Chris Miller's new book, Chip War, which I highly recommend, is just the best book on why semiconductors really matter” — Niall Ferguson 01:27:15Find it on Amazon
Tom Holland
“Tom Holland has this terrific book, Dominion, which points out that although we think we are secular, in reality, we are still a highly Christian society” — Niall Ferguson 01:40:01Find it on Amazon
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
“Anybody who hasn't read one of my wife's books should do something about that. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Infidel is a pretty good place to start” — Niall Ferguson 01:43:59Find it on Amazon