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Tim Ferriss · 2023-05-17 · 3h 27m

Bobby Hundreds — Building an Iconic Streetwear Brand and Much More | The Tim Ferriss Show

Streetwear founder Bobby Hundreds tells Tim Ferriss how community, scarcity, and collaboration built The Hundreds into a lasting brand.

Bobby Hundreds — Building an Iconic Streetwear Brand and Much More | The Tim Ferriss Show
The guest

Bobby Hundreds — Artist, designer, and storyteller; co-founder and chief creative officer of streetwear brand The Hundreds, and author of 'This Is Not a T-Shirt' and 'NFTs Are a Scam / NFTs Are the Future.'

The gist

Bobby Hundreds traces his path from a Korean-American outsider childhood in Riverside, California, through law school, to building The Hundreds as a streetwear brand rooted in community, blogging, and direct relationships with fans. He explains the mechanics of drop culture, deliberate scarcity, and collaborations as marketing, plus how fashion momentum turns 'on a dime' and why surviving each cycle matters more than winning. The conversation ranges widely into Korean culture (the concepts of han and nunchi), the government-orchestrated Korean Wave, Japanese streetwear, and how to spot rising talent. He also shares practical life systems like periodically changing his phone number and email to reset an overwhelming inbound flood.

Big reveals

  • A dying research attorney named Abe Edelman, during Bobby's law-school internship, told him he'd be a great lawyer but should never do it because his heart wasn't in it, urging him to pursue The Hundreds instead.
  • Tommy Hilfiger wanted to buy the company, but the deal fell through right as the fashion market turned against streetwear.
  • Their first 400-square-foot Fairfax store was doing what Bobby describes as 'millions of dollars' worth of business, with Jay-Z wearing the brand on the cover of USA Today.
  • The first major Disney collaboration started because The Hundreds was infringing on Disney IP; Disney's lawyers threatened to sue, then offered an official collaboration instead.
  • Disney let them merge the Disney font and logos with The Hundreds in a way that was almost confusing on purpose, and it was the first and last time Disney allowed a partner to do that.
  • When a downturn hits, distributors and stores that bought for seven years straight stop returning calls within about six months, and the only strategy is to 'cut fast, cut deep.'
  • The Korean government intentionally orchestrated the 'Korean Wave,' directly funding and working with music labels to export Korean culture as soft power.

Things worth remembering

  • Bobby skipped first grade and was reading full books, not children's books, around age four.
  • He signed up for one of the first blogging platforms (Blogger/Blogspot) when blogging began in 1999, having grown up making punk-rock zines.
  • Japanese designers like Nigo of A Bathing Ape reportedly studied American youth by observing how kids dressed outside high schools, then refined the styles back in Japan.
  • Bobby was at a wedding in Sicily when Gangnam Style played and watched a small Sicilian town's grandparents and kids all dancing to a Korean artist.
  • About 75-85% of pachinko parlors in Japan are owned by Koreans, tied to the tortured history covered in the book 'Pachinko' by Min Jin Lee.
  • Bobby changes his phone number and email on a Friday afternoon, coordinating it to the minute with Verizon, to buy 48-72 hours of 'beautiful silence' before people find him again.
  • During the NFT boom he says he sold 25,000 NFTs in 40 minutes, and was fielding calls from essentially every A-list Hollywood star wanting in.
  • Garfield creator Jim Davis built his licensing empire off the 'stuck-on-you' suction-cup plush toys for car windows before realizing licensing, not comics, was where the money was.
  • Bill Watterson refused to license Calvin and Hobbes and reportedly hacked a stuffed Hobbes to pieces with scissors in a meeting to make his point about merchandising.
  • The Epitaph Records collaboration took 11 years to come together because every band had to sign off, and the label owner told them to keep all the money since it was advertising.

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This Is Not a T-Shirt

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“if you read penko by minen Lee this is supposed to be an amazing book been recommended a ton I haven't read beautiful book” — Bobby Hundreds 01:23:38
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“I'm wearing a Phantom of the Opera shirt it's actually a collaboration that we did with Andrew Lloyd Weber” — Bobby Hundreds 01:53:44
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“I put him on to books like that like the hard thing about hard things or Ben Horowitz Ben yeah Ben horowitz's book” — Bobby Hundreds 03:10:37
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“Phil Knights shoe dog right is a great kids in Street where love that book” — Bobby Hundreds 03:10:37
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“Simon Sy next stuff is like very easy to understand start with why that with why and Leaders Eat laugh” — Bobby Hundreds 03:11:07
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“start with why that with why and Leaders Eat laugh but I I read a lot of FSG books” — Bobby Hundreds 03:11:07
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“a fictionalized non-fiction book on the Chilean miners it's called deep down dark 33 but it sounds kind of random I love that book” — Bobby Hundreds 03:11:07
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“I love The Godfather by Mario puso I've given that a out a lot that's probably one of my favorite books” — Bobby Hundreds 03:11:39
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