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Diary of a CEO · 2021-06-07 · 1h 38m

Liam Payne Opens Up About His Darkest Moments, Failed Relationships & Entrepreneurship!

Liam Payne opens up about One Direction fame, alcoholism, suicidal ideation, therapy, fatherhood, and building a life with meaning.

Liam Payne Opens Up About His Darkest Moments, Failed Relationships & Entrepreneurship!
The guest

Liam Payne — Singer who rose to global fame in One Direction after auditioning for The X Factor at age 14; now a solo artist, entrepreneur and investor.

The gist

Liam Payne sits with Stephen Bartlett to reflect candidly on being catapulted into stardom at 14 and the hidden cost of being in one of the biggest bands in the world. He speaks openly about alcoholism, severe suicidal ideation, going to therapy, and getting sober. He explores his struggles with relationships, perfectionism, masking his emotions, and never feeling allowed to grow up. He also discusses fatherhood, his investing journey, an NFT art project built around the 'forever child' of early fame, and his search for what actually makes him happy.

Big reveals

  • Liam admits to suicidal ideation that was 'really really really severe' and stuff he has never spoken about publicly.
  • He has been sober for just over a month at the time of recording.
  • He describes being effectively locked in hotel rooms during One Direction, leading him to have a 'party for one' with the minibar that became years of drinking.
  • At 15, two years post-X Factor, his fame had declined and a stranger shouted 'X Factor reject' at him in a McDonald's in front of the whole restaurant.
  • His first AA experience was attending an all-male meeting chaired by Russell Brand at Brand's house.
  • He confesses touring 'really really messed me up,' especially the loneliness of hotel rooms.
  • He felt relief when the band ended: 'thank lord for that... i needed to stop or it would kill me.'

Things worth remembering

  • Liam was first on TV at 14, performing to an audience he estimates at around 20 million people.
  • At the time of his underwear commercial he weighed about 75 kilos, describing himself as a small, light guy.
  • A Dubai solo show drew around 110,000 people, putting him on a record list alongside Michael Jackson.
  • He was a director of what he calls a half-a-billion-dollar industry at 22 but says it mostly meant signing far more forms.
  • Before The X Factor he had secured a factory apprenticeship paying around 22,000 a year, planning to save and buy rental property.
  • His solo single 'Strip That Down' did roughly a billion streams and took nine months of work to reach number one in America.
  • As a kid his family was poor; a wealthier school friend (now a professional poker player) would buy him 20p worth of toast for breakfast.
  • He frames One Direction as 'the new wave of the Beatles' and argues no act will beat that run in their lifetimes.
  • To design his NFT dragon character he studied how mythical dragons are built from lions, snakes, crocodiles and dinosaurs.

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