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Joe Rogan · 2024-07-02 · 3h 18m

Joe Rogan Experience #1926 - Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis

Comedians Matt McCusker and Shane Gillis riff with Joe Rogan on pro wrestling, video-game and porn addiction, drug-dealing pasts, and dumb conspiracies.

Joe Rogan Experience #1926 - Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis
The guest

Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis — Stand-up comedians and co-hosts of 'Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast'; longtime friends who came up together in the Philadelphia and New York comedy scenes.

The gist

Joe Rogan hosts comedians Matt McCusker and Shane Gillis for a loose, three-hour comedy hang with no real throughline. They open on marriage, divorce and climate-change skepticism before spiraling into pro wrestling lore, video-game addiction, and a long thread on Adderall, drinking and quitting porn. Matt opens up about his past selling drugs, getting robbed at gunpoint twice, and a brief stint as a teenage realtor, while Shane tells lonely-on-the-road comedy stories. The back half covers SSRIs and the questioned serotonin theory of depression, super-normal stimuli, the Philadelphia Parking Authority, runaway truck ramps, and the comedy road life.

Big reveals

  • Matt admits he was a drug dealer who quit after panic attacks at 23 forced him to reassess his life.
  • Matt describes somehow getting his hands on 'jugs' of Watson pharmaceutical Vicodin.
  • Matt says he was robbed at gunpoint twice, once by his own supplier who later went to jail.
  • Matt recounts becoming a 19-year-old realtor and crying in his car after deals fell through.
  • Shane says he decided early in Covid not to be afraid, based on death-rate data, over his wife's objections.
  • Shane discusses quitting porn since August and the temptation of the hotel-room 'final frontier'.
  • Joe describes the brutal multi-day screaming voiceover sessions for the EA UFC video game.
  • Matt details his long-running beef with the Philadelphia Parking Authority repossessing his cars.

Things worth remembering

  • The Toba super-volcano ~70,000 years ago may have knocked humanity down to a few thousand people.
  • The mocked 'dog general' military photo traces back to a satirical American Conservative piece.
  • Hollow-point bullets predate, and are not actually banned by, the Geneva Convention.
  • Biden was caught lying about his law-school rank, ranking 76th of 85, not the top half.
  • The serotonin 'chemical imbalance' theory of depression is not supported by the evidence.
  • Megan Phelps left Westboro Baptist Church after a man argued scripture with her on Twitter, then married him.
  • Super-normal stimuli: butterflies will devote their lives to over-saturated fake color, like junk food or porn for humans.
  • Philadelphia made Uber pay roughly $250k a year as taxi-medallion values collapsed.
  • The PPA pulls in about $264 million a year, much of it from parking tickets.
  • Pfizer's CEO later framed two vaccine doses as little protection and a third as merely 'reasonable'.

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