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Tim Ferriss · 2024-09-04 · 1h 49m

Tim Ferriss’s Sabbatical, Kevin Rose Tries a Medium, Fitness Tools, and More — The Tim Ferriss Show

Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose riff on podcast sabbaticals, modern dating, longevity science, mediums, and ketamine therapy on the Random Show.

Tim Ferriss’s Sabbatical, Kevin Rose Tries a Medium, Fitness Tools, and More — The Tim Ferriss Show
The guest

Kevin Rose — Kevin Rose with Tim Ferriss

The gist

In this Random Show, Tim Ferriss explains why he took his first podcast sabbatical in ten years to draft a new book, and how he wants to reshape his interview approach going forward. The pair cover skincare experiments like the vampire facial, Tim's systematic approach to dating and starting a family, and rucking and back-pain training tools. They dive deep into longevity science, including the protein klotho as a potential Alzheimer's breakthrough that Kevin's fund is investing in, plus rapamycin for aging dogs. Kevin recounts an emotional session with a psychic medium about his late father, and Tim shares stories of unexplained phenomena witnessed during ayahuasca ceremonies. They close with a candid, cautionary discussion of IV and intramuscular ketamine therapy for treatment-resistant depression following Matthew Perry's death.

Big reveals

  • Tim Ferriss reveals he took his first podcast sabbatical in 10 years (roughly four months) to write his first new book in seven years, and plans a 'barbell' guest strategy of total unknowns or huge names with little in between.
  • Tim explains his viral 'Romanian Vampire Protocol' Instagram post was a joke, while Kevin details actually getting a real vampire facial (PRP microneedling) at the dermatologist.
  • Tim openly discusses his systematic 'radical planning' approach to dating, wanting a partner in the 28-35 range who is ready and excited to build a family biologically.
  • Kevin reveals True Ventures is leading a large investment to bring the longevity protein klotho into human trials within about a year and a half, framing it as a potential 'Ozempic for the mind' for Alzheimer's.
  • Kevin recounts speaking to his dead father through a $150 psychic medium, who correctly referenced a half-sister Kevin had that was never on the internet, leaving him sobbing.
  • Tim describes firsthand witnessing people with no exposure speak or sing coherently for up to an hour in indigenous languages (Shipibo, Kichwa-Lamista) and a dead language during ayahuasca ceremonies.
  • Kevin announces an upcoming podcast where he filmed himself undergoing intramuscular ketamine treatment to demystify it as a tool for treatment-resistant depression and suicidal ideation.
  • Tim warns that ketamine is 'like alcohol times 100' for taking the edge off and should never be self-administered outside a clinic, citing high-functioning people who derailed their lives.

Things worth remembering

  • Tim got a staph infection 12 years ago after a clinic used the wrong injection site for a PRP joint injection, swelling his elbow to the size of a volleyball, and he later squirted the drained fluid at Kevin in the ER.
  • Tim recommends the Outdoorsmans Atlas Trainer Frame rucking system (recommended by Olympic archer Jake Kaminski) that accepts standard Olympic plates for progressive resistance.
  • Kevin gifts Tim a 'Feno' device, a startup product that brushes the entire mouth in 20 seconds and has built-in sensors that scan gum health to send to your dentist.
  • Tim, Kevin, Peter Attia, and Brian Armstrong all funded the Dog Aging Project's rapamycin study with researcher Matt Kaeberlein; Kevin's 14-year-old dog Toaster has done courses of rapamycin.
  • If you carry the APOE4 gene you face dramatically higher Alzheimer's risk, but being a klotho overproducer can level the playing field; in monkeys a subcutaneous klotho shot made them about 20 percent smarter for four weeks.
  • Kevin started a paid Substack donating 100 percent of the first month's proceeds to fund a Matt Walker sleep study on antioxidants that may repair a bad night's sleep.
  • Kevin donated stock to UCSF researcher Dena Dubal to fund a $50k klotho study she started about a week and a half later, illustrating how small checks can rapidly accelerate science.
  • Tim notes ayahuasca combines Banisteriopsis caapi vine with Psychotria viridis (chacruna), comparing the variability to spins on an old-fashioned cocktail.
  • The documentary 'The Birth of Sake' covers Yoshida Brewery, one of only about a thousand remaining handmade sake breweries (down from roughly 4,000 a decade ago), where workers leave families to tend sake around the clock for six months.
  • Addison explains the new open-source Flux AI image model came from former Stability AI team members, and despite claims you couldn't fine-tune it, training loras became possible within 24 hours of launch.

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