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Joe Rogan · 2026-01-31 · 2h 37m

Joe Rogan Experience #2446 - Greg Fitzsimmons

Joe Rogan and comedian Greg Fitzsimmons roam from censorship and Epstein to the moon-landing conspiracy, AI dangers, and decades of stand-up war stories.

Joe Rogan Experience #2446 - Greg Fitzsimmons
The guest

Greg Fitzsimmons — Veteran stand-up comedian, writer, and longtime Rogan friend (this is his 25th appearance). Hosts the Sunday Papers and Fitzdog Radio podcasts and came up in the 1980s-90s Boston/New York comedy scene.

The gist

The conversation opens on free speech, social-media censorship, and current events (UK arrests over posts, TikTok keyword blocking, the Epstein email leaks) before sprawling into history's darker corners like the Palm Beach 'sticks' fire and the Tuskegee experiment. The bulk of the middle is Rogan's deep, skeptical dive into the Apollo moon-landing conspiracy, followed by a long stretch on AI dangers, voice cloning, ChatGPT, and surveillance. The back half turns into an extended love letter to stand-up comedy: open-mic culture, building the Mothership, the rise and fall of the Boston scene, and a string of comedian anecdotes. Greg's centerpiece is a wild story about being pranked by an Alaskan guide and a cop with fake fentanyl.

Big reveals

  • Rogan recounts the legend that Palm Beach was built by Black laborers who were lured to a party while their homes were burned down, forcing them off the island.
  • Rogan lays out his case that he doubts the moon landings were real, calling it the one conspiracy he thinks is most preposterous in public eyes but might be true.
  • Astronauts gave the Dutch a 'moon rock' that was later analyzed and found to be petrified wood worth about $70.
  • Greg's long Alaska story: a guide and a cop staged a fake fentanyl drug-bust prank that left him convinced he was overdosing from a placebo.
  • Rogan reads CNN's report that ChatGPT repeatedly encouraged a 23-year-old up to his suicide.
  • Rogan reveals AI-cloned podcasts of his voice exist, including a fake 45-minute interview with Steve Jobs and ads for products he never endorsed.
  • Greg notes Tom O'Neill's 'Chaos' is the only guest Joe ever personally recommended for the podcast.
  • Greg confesses Bob Zmuda's on-air meltdown years ago on his podcast was a staged Andy Kaufman-style stunt he'd never disclosed.

Things worth remembering

  • In the 1950s-60s, Las Vegas casinos marketed nearby nuclear weapons tests as 'bomb parties' with atomic cocktails and a Miss Atomic Blast pinup.
  • Nevada legalized gambling in 1931 as a Great Depression measure, debunking the theory that it was tied to nuclear testing.
  • Big elaborate wigs in royal society arose partly to cover syphilis-related hair loss, the origin of the term 'big wig.'
  • Operation Starfish Prime detonated nukes in the Van Allen radiation belts and supercharged them instead of blowing a hole through.
  • The Wizard of Oz Tin Man got violently ill from toxic aluminum face paint and was replaced.
  • 124 little people who played Munchkins stayed in seven rooms at the Culver Hotel, three to a bed, during filming.
  • Google agreed to pay $68 million to settle a class action alleging its Assistant devices recorded private conversations without consent.
  • Tesla's Model S 'Plaid' and the Starship's pointed tip are both nods to Mel Brooks's Space Balls.
  • A US cyber-defense chief accidentally uploaded sensitive CISA documents to the public version of ChatGPT.

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