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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27 · 2h 38m

Joe Rogan Experience #2068 - Cameron Hanes

Bowhunter Cameron Hanes and Joe Rogan riff on peptides, extreme fitness, archery-gear obsession, and why hunting reconnects you to real life.

Joe Rogan Experience #2068 - Cameron Hanes
The guest

Cameron Hanes — Bowhunter, ultramarathon runner, and author known for extreme fitness, backcountry elk hunting, and his 'keep hammering' mindset.

The gist

Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes open with stem cells, peptides like BPC-157, and the distrust driving people toward self-directed health optimization. They drift through UFC fight breakdowns, steroid-era baseball, and a long appreciation of extreme physical specimens like Tom Havalon and David Goggins. The back half becomes a deep dive into Cam's archery-gear obsession (bows, broadheads, sights, arrows, lighted nocks) and the precision and confidence required to make ethical kills. It closes on philosophy: John Danaher's Kaizen, the spirituality of hunting, sharing wild game, and how earning your food reconnects you to something primal.

Big reveals

  • Shane Dorian went to Tijuana for full-body stem cell treatment, getting his discs injected and being told to rest for eight weeks.
  • BPC-157 and thymosin peptides were pulled from the market; the UFC tests for BPC-157 even though it mainly just helps athletes heal.
  • David Goggins is running thousands of miles on bone-on-bone knees, and Tony Ferguson became the first to get through his hell week.
  • Peter Attia performs autopsies on the animals he kills, breaking down wound channels and hemorrhaging like a surgeon.
  • Gordon Ryan writes on paper exactly how he'll tap an opponent, seals it in an envelope, then sets the submission up several steps ahead.
  • Cam's Utah bull came within about two yards; he had to aim his 20-yard pin high to hit the heart, and the arrow broke off inside it.

Things worth remembering

  • The Salvator Mundi sold for $450 million, yet most of it was repainted by a modern restorer; MBS reportedly keeps it on a yacht.
  • The Pentagon failed its audit for the sixth year in a row.
  • Edson Barbosa's wheel-kick knockout of Terry Etim was believed to be the first wheel-kick KO in UFC history.
  • Turkish get-ups and windmills aren't 'sexy' but build the functional core strength needed for carrying elk quarters up a hill.
  • Tom Havalon is a 6'7", 300+ lb Australian who lifts homemade weights in the outback and deadlifts around 1,300 pounds.
  • Tooth of the Arrow broadheads are cut from one solid piece of steel with most of the mass in the ferrule, giving a four-blade, 4-inch cut.
  • In John Lusk's tests a 125-grain Tooth of the Arrow broadhead set a record, punching through roughly 75 layers of cardboard.
  • Cam shoots an 80-plus-pound bow launching a 520-grain arrow at about 300 feet per second for maximum lethality.
  • John Danaher says it takes roughly five to seven years of full-time training to reach world-class level in most sports.
  • Elk used to have large tusks, and the ivory teeth hunters keep are the evolutionary remnants of them.

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Guest’s ownBook

Backcountry Bowhunting

Cameron Hanes

“I read about it in a book called back country B hunting I can't remember who wrote it but it's a pretty good book” — Cameron Hanes 01:31:28
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BPC-157

“bpc 157 it's a very common one for helping heal injuries and it works works really well I know a lot of people that use it” — Joe Rogan 00:20:04
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Garmin GPS watch

Garmin

“I'm a big fan of Garmin I love all their stuff you know I have this Garmin watch that I love” — Cameron Hanes 01:10:58
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Spot Hogg bow sight

Spot Hogg

“I went back to the spot hog and I went to just using that Loop hold full draw which I really like” — Cameron Hanes 01:13:03
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Hoyt Alpha X bow

Hoyt

“Hoyt keeps making better bows every year they're just smoother and more accurate” — Cameron Hanes 01:05:49
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Tooth of the Arrow broadheads

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“those tooth of the arrow broadheads they I like those cuz they're american made and they cut them out of one solid piece of Steel” — Cameron Hanes 01:08:25
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