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Joe Rogan · 2024-07-18 · 2h 19m

Joe Rogan Experience #2177 - Chris Robinson

Chris Robinson of The Black Crowes talks counterculture, record collecting, defiance against the music business, travel, and the value of raw, authentic art.

Joe Rogan Experience #2177 - Chris Robinson
The guest

Chris Robinson — Singer and co-founder of The Black Crowes, lifelong record collector, DJ, and head of the Silver Arrow label.

The gist

Joe Rogan sits down with Black Crowes frontman Chris Robinson for a sprawling conversation about music and culture. Robinson traces his roots in 1980s Atlanta punk and new wave, his obsession with vinyl and record stores, and the band's early defiance against corporate sponsors and label executives. They range widely across travel (Sicily, Jamaica, Italy), the dangers of social media and TikTok, the loss of authentic rock rebellion, and the importance of craft over algorithm-driven content. The talk closes on artistic purity, adversity, and music's power to carry people through hardship.

Big reveals

  • The Black Crowes feuded with ZZ Top on tour over Miller Lite sponsorship, with Robinson telling crowds no beer company owned their music.
  • On their second Saturday Night Live appearance Robinson insisted on playing the unknown 'Non-Fiction' over a hit single, defying the show's music director who later called them the worst people he ever dealt with.
  • Rick Rubin allegedly suggested they spell the band 'Cobb County Crows' as 'KKK' to be controversial, which Robinson found unimaginably offensive.
  • Robinson clarifies he and his brother were born in Atlanta, not Cobb County, and that it's been hard to correct on Wikipedia.
  • Robinson recounts the Eleusinian Mysteries and how the rich made them exclusive before the Romans shut them down, paralleling the 1960s scheduling of psychedelics.
  • The pandemic gave Robinson perspective that singing isn't all he can do; he wants to write books and pursue other artistic outlets.

Things worth remembering

  • The term 'Quincy punk' came from a Quincy episode about the LA punk scene; looking like the show's punks meant you were considered fake.
  • Robinson has been buying records since age 12 and recently put 4,000 records into storage for lack of space.
  • Robinson and his wife Camille DJ together under the name 'the captain and Camille.'
  • The Black Crowes headlined the Memphis Blues Festival with John Lee Hooker going on before them, which Robinson felt was wrong.
  • Robinson smoked a joint with director Robert Altman at a Donatella Versace party in London.
  • On tour they played a Roman theater in Mérida, Spain that had been filled with trash until excavated in the 1950s.
  • France lost about 25% of its men in World War I and another 25% in World War II.
  • Robinson says the Rolling Stones play their songs in the same keys as decades ago, and that he keeps his own songs in their original keys too.

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