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Diary of a CEO · 2020-11-02 · 53m

Why We're Getting More Depressed, Anxious and Lonely | E55

Stephen Bartlett's solo diary chapter on why modern life breeds depression, anxiety and loneliness, and how to live more human.

Why We're Getting More Depressed, Anxious and Lonely | E55
The guest

Stephen Bartlett — Entrepreneur, founder and former CEO of Social Chain, and host of The Diary Of A CEO podcast.

The gist

In this solo diary episode, Stephen Bartlett shares personal anecdotes and lessons from his week as he researches a book on motivation, burnout and mental health. He argues that extrinsic, externally-validated goals (money, status, looking good for summer) reliably destroy motivation and cause burnout, while intrinsic, never-ending goals sustain it. He contends modern life has drifted away from how humans evolved to live, and that the 'new age cures' (nature, connection, exercise, simplicity) are really a return to ancient ways. He closes with controversial views on marriage and monogamy and a plea to stop conforming and be more yourself.

Big reveals

  • Bartlett breaks his five-year cycle of getting fit for summer then losing motivation by realizing his goal was extrinsic ('look good for summer') and re-anchoring it to intrinsic, time-frame-free motivations.
  • He admits that at 18 his entire life was centered on getting 'filthy rich' at the expense of everything, leaving him a self-diagnosed recluse who hated empty weekends.
  • He reframes a friend's burnout as a purpose problem caused by a purely extrinsic definition of success (money, car, house).
  • He reveals the day he truly achieved his Range Rover goal was three years later when he sold it and no longer needed it for validation.
  • Now technically unemployed after leaving Social Chain, he says the global travel and stage-pitching life he once loved now repulses him because the shared mission is gone.
  • He shares controversial views that marriage is a 'broken' construct and that humans may not be innately monogamous.
  • His closing thesis: fitting in is a curse, and the closer he gets to being his authentic 'weirdo' self the happier and more successful he becomes.

Things worth remembering

  • At his fittest he trained seven days a week, calorie counting, and once ate 5,000 calories in a day.
  • He cites the positive impact the gym has on his sleep, energy and sex life as intrinsic, finish-line-free motivators.
  • He reveals Johann Hari is returning to the podcast and credits 'Lost Connections' as the single biggest influence on how he sees the world.
  • He notes some food can be delivered via UberEats in 25 minutes and Amazon Prime next day, contrasting modern convenience with ancestral hunting and gathering.
  • He argues the pandemic stripped work of its intrinsic rewards, leaving only the extrinsic 'wake up, Zoom, to-do list, sleep' loop.
  • Social Chain had a 'happiness team' and on-site therapists, and at one point about ten dogs in the office.
  • As a 21-year-old freelance consultant he was paid roughly 70 grand a month advising companies, yet couldn't find motivation to send a single 20k email.
  • He values one hour of his time at about 10,000 pounds to filter opportunities, a framework he attributes partly to Naval.
  • He compares marriage's ~50% failure rate to buying a TV where half the units fail.

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RecommendedBook

Lost Connections

Johann Hari

“johanna hari who came on this podcast wrote a life-shifting book called lost connections on this exact point” — Stephen Bartlett 00:13:24
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