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Joe Rogan · 2026-05-08 · 2h 42m

Joe Rogan Experience #2496 - Julia Mossbridge

Neuroscientist Julia Mossbridge and Joe Rogan dig into precognition, telepathic non-speaking autistic kids, retrocausal photons, and secret gifted-program experiments.

Joe Rogan Experience #2496 - Julia Mossbridge
The guest

Julia Mossbridge — Cognitive neuroscientist and AI/computer scientist (PhD Northwestern) who studies precognition, presentiment, and telepathy. Founder of nonprofit Applied Love Labs and author of 'Have a Nice Disclosure.'

The gist

Mossbridge explains how she hid her interest in psychic phenomena to get through mainstream academia, then returned to rigorously studying precognition, presentiment, and remote viewing. A large chunk of the conversation covers her work with non-speaking autistic kids who appear to demonstrate telepathy, including a 'telepathy train' where students relayed each other's ideas without contact. The two go deep on physics, double-slit experiments, retrocausality, and her claim that photons can interfere with future photons in a way she says points toward a better approach to quantum computing. They also discuss ego, listening, martial arts, flow states, the nature of ideas/the muse, and UFO disclosure. The episode closes with Mossbridge's account of childhood 'gifted program' experiments she believes involved intelligence-agency-linked drug dosing, memory loss, and possible radiation research without parental consent.

Big reveals

  • Describes a Zoom telepathy trial where a non-speaking student described a video ('a beautiful sky') the communication partner had never seen the question for.
  • 'Telepathy train': two non-speaking kids who never met independently both ask to go on a double date with each other.
  • A non-speaker used the word 'afarizes' (only used in the 1400s/1600s) and said he learned it from 'a magistrate from that time period.'
  • Claims she replicated an experiment showing photons interfere with photons from the future (retrocausality).
  • Teases a new company built around using retrocausal, room-temperature photon behavior for quantum computing.
  • Says childhood gifted programs gave students chalky pink drinks and induced memory loss without parental consent.
  • Recounts a precognitive dream that gave her a real phone number for a government radiation-monitoring agency.
  • Reveals the first 'SOAR' gifted program in the 1970s stood for 'Students On Active Research,' near nuclear facilities.

Things worth remembering

  • Says some of her peer-reviewed papers won't appear in Google Scholar despite being in indexed journals.
  • Studied 'sense of being stared at' and skin-conductance presentiment funded by Portugal's Bial Foundation.
  • Found a gender difference: men's physiology spikes before correctly guessing future random events; women's stays flat.
  • Pooled 26 studies over ~40 years showing physiology predicting random future events.
  • Cites neurologist Morris Freeman: stroke or magnetic suppression of the left orbitofrontal area made people more 'psychic.'
  • Hypothesis: language/speech suppresses latent psychic ability, which is why non-speakers may access it.
  • New York Times piece on 'singing mice' (Cold Spring Harbor) whose vocal ability differs from lab mice by only a few fiber tracts.
  • Marshall McLuhan quote (1960s): 'Human beings are the sex organs of the machine world.'
  • Mossbridge runs Applied Love Labs (founded 2019) and built an audio 'time machine' journaling app used at Cook County Jail and with veterans.

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