Joe Rogan Experience #1978 - Ms Pat

Ms Pat returns to talk with Joe Rogan about the success of 'The Ms. Pat Show,' a rare multicam sitcom shot before a live audience, and how she fights writers and executives to keep her voice authentic. She recounts her astonishing life story: pregnant at 13, two kids by 15, shot and selling crack, before Katt Williams helped launch her comedy career. Much of the conversation is freewheeling cultural commentary on abortion, gay marriage, trans athletes, the JK Rowling backlash, and how politicians keep people fighting while peddling influence. She also details acting as her own general contractor to build a 17,000 sq ft house on seven acres, her three Cane Corso dogs, and her strict no-cursing rule for her grown kids. The episode closes with long riffs on wildlife, conspiracy theories, and the Pras Michel FBI case.

• Ms Pat got pregnant at 13 after meeting the man at 12 (he was 22 and married), gave birth at 14, and had a second child at 15.
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• Her past included selling crack and being shot before she found comedy and turned her life around.
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• Katt Williams discovered her from a clip and put her on his DVD/tour, which finally convinced her skeptical husband she could make it.
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• She acted as her own general contractor to build a 17,000 sq ft house on seven acres, teaching herself the process partly through TikTok.
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• Early in her sitcom career she was sent to a counselor to be 'reprogrammed' so she could give corporate-acceptable feedback in the writers' room.
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• Sitcoms hire professional 'hard laughers' to fake audience reactions, which she refuses to use on her show.
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• Ms Pat flatly does not believe in aliens, insisting 'this is it' and that humans are alone in the universe.
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• Her co-creator Jordan Cooper is about 27 and a TV-history savant who taught her how Lucy and Desi Arnaz controlled their show.
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• 'The Ms. Pat Show' was the first sitcom shot multicam before a live studio audience in Atlanta, requiring the local crew to be taught how.
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• Katt Williams told her he never eats before a show because digesting food drains energy, comparing it to fighters before a bout.
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• Dave Chappelle brings big JBL Bluetooth boomboxes and a curated playlist to get in the zone before shows, a ritual she adopted.
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• Her husband lost about 60 pounds on Ozempic, getting it before the drug became a celebrity trend.
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• Her religious father, despite his beliefs, came to accept her gay daughter.
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• She tells a story about her husband killing a kitchen rat with a thrown can of tuna, scaring off the rats for good.
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• Jamie reads context that in Tibetan culture sticking out the tongue is a traditional greeting dating to the 9th century king Lang Darma.
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• A fact-checker segment debunks the myth that squirrels bite off rivals' testicles, tracing it to Sigurd Olson's 1956 book.
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