Nephrologist-turned-vaccine-skeptic Suzanne Humphries argues to Joe Rogan that vaccine history, polio, smallpox and COVID have been fundamentally misrepresented.

Dr. Suzanne Humphries — A former nephrologist (kidney specialist) and professor of medicine who left conventional practice to become a vaccine critic. She co-authored 'Dissolving Illusions,' a book reinterpreting the historical data behind vaccines and disease decline.
Humphries recounts how influenza vaccines causing kidney failure in her patients in 2008-2009 began unraveling her belief in vaccine orthodoxy, leading her to research polio, smallpox, tetanus and more. She argues that declines in disease death rates were driven mainly by sanitation, clean water, nutrition and labor reform rather than vaccination, and that polio diagnoses were reshaped by changing definitions and pesticides like DDT. The conversation covers the SV40 contaminant in polio vaccines, vaccine manufacturing practices, the role of vitamin C and breast milk in immunity, and the COVID era's censorship and propaganda. Rogan describes his own shift from vaccine believer to skeptic after reading her book and RFK Jr.'s work, and shares his experience not getting the COVID shot. The two repeatedly return to the theme that economic incentives, not science, drive the vaccine program.
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Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk
“one of the great things about your book is um first of all, your book's called Dissolving Illusions. I know I've talked about on the podcast a bunch of times” — Joe Rogan 00:00:32Find it on Amazon
Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk
“it's it's not just something he's dreamed up again provable medical literature in the book dissolving illusions. um the physiology, the pathology is known” — Suzanne Humphries 00:23:22Find it on Amazon
Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk
“we added I brought you a a special copy. This is a limited edition. Um, in the 10th anniversary edition, we added 200 pages and we added a chapter called the white plague” — Suzanne Humphries 00:50:00Find it on Amazon
Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk
“if I may just direct people to dissolving illusions.com because if you just go to Amazon, you're not going to there's two different versions of the book” — Suzanne Humphries 02:30:46Find it on Amazon
Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk
“this one is called the companion book to dissolving illusions and then but if you you can see all the versions and all we've been translated into eight languages” — Suzanne Humphries 02:32:19Find it on Amazon
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“one of the things that we found out when we were selling AlphaBrain is that uh in the beginning when we would hire a lab to um make the formula for us” — Joe Rogan 01:48:57Find it on Amazon
Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher
“There's a really good book called The Virus and the Vaccine by Bookchin and Schumacher. It's a incredible book that details everything about those years” — Suzanne Humphries 01:15:50Find it on Amazon