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Andrew Huberman · 2023-10-23 · 2h 15m

Curing All Human Diseases & the Future of Health & Technology | Mark Zuckerberg & Dr. Priscilla Chan

Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan explain how CZI aims to cure all disease, then Zuckerberg dives into AI, VR, and smart glasses.

Curing All Human Diseases & the Future of Health & Technology | Mark Zuckerberg & Dr. Priscilla Chan
The guest

Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan — Zuckerberg is founder and CEO of Meta (Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp). Chan is a physician and educator; together they co-founded the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI), a philanthropy aiming to cure, prevent, or manage all disease by the end of the century.

The gist

The first half covers the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative's mission to cure, prevent, or manage all human disease by 2100 through tool-building, funding science, and operating interdisciplinary 'biohubs.' Chan and Zuckerberg detail single-cell biology, the Human Cell Atlas, AI 'virtual cell' modeling, and engineered immune cells used as in-body sensors. The second half is a one-on-one with Zuckerberg on social media's effects on mental health, parental controls, and avoiding paternalism. He then explores mixed reality, the Meta Quest, Ray-Ban Meta smart glasses, AI assistants, and how digital and physical worlds will merge.

Big reveals

  • Chan states CZI's goal is to cure, prevent, or manage ALL disease by the end of the century.
  • Zuckerberg reveals CZI is building one of the largest non-profit life-sciences AI clusters, around 1,000 GPUs.
  • Chan admits 'we've basically cured every single disease in mice' but warns it doesn't translate to humans.
  • Inflammation drives 50% of all deaths, framing CZI's disease-agnostic sensor work.
  • Chan tells the story of her refugee grandparents sending their children out of Vietnam on small boats as her source of optimism.
  • Zuckerberg says he was editing the CZI launch letter in the hospital delivery room before his first child was born.
  • Huberman is blown away by Ray-Ban Meta glasses, saying he wants a pair 'very badly' (unpaid).
  • Zuckerberg confirms Meta plans a creator AI-avatar feature, likely shipping next year, with creator control over impersonation.

Things worth remembering

  • The human body contains an estimated 37 trillion cells.
  • CZI is working toward a 'virtual cell' built entirely from data, trained via large language models.
  • Applying single-cell methods to the lung revealed an entirely new cell type that reshapes understanding of cystic fibrosis.
  • AlphaFold from DeepMind uses transformer-style architecture fed protein data instead of language to predict folding.
  • Slowed transmission at the neuromuscular junction is what causes elderly people to fall.
  • There are over 7,000 rare diseases, which collectively affect very many people.
  • A Meta headset hand-tracking demo lets people type ~100 words a minute on a virtual keyboard projected onto a table.
  • The Ray-Ban Meta glasses include a 'privacy light' that pulses bright white whenever the camera is active.
  • Viewing screens up close for many hours drives myopia, while two-plus hours outdoors daily can prevent or even reverse it.
  • Snoop Dogg voices the 'dungeon master' AI persona Zuckerberg uses for bedtime storytelling with his daughter.

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